minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
        + Hangout: Andras, Caolan, Kendy, Joel, Kohei, Tsai, Michael M, Thorsten
        + Phone:   Stephan, Norbert, Cloph, Eike, David, Michael S,
                   Astron, Cedric, Tibby

* Completed Action Items:
        + now that digest is ready, as agreed disable gerrit firehose (Bjoern)
                [ done ]
        + banner advert might be good for this QA contest => chase marketing (Joel)
        + chase QA banner ad for the contest (Astron)
                [ chasing in progress, hoping for something tonight ]
AI:     + tweak text on the pre-release page (Cloph)

* Pending Action items:
        + get remaining GOSC guys introduced on the QA list (Cedric)
        + update visible bugzilla versions to hide ~all legacy versions (Joel)
                [ bsa fixing in progress ]
        + setup a UX Advice bz component and default CC the ux-advise ML (Joel)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
        + Petr missed & on holiday for two weeks
                + Cloph carrying the flag
        + 4.1.0 RC1 update
                + two (translation + help) related bugfix tags needed
                + being built, up-loading to the mirrors
        + 3.6.7 schedule - deadline:
                + next monday is nearly the last chance for 3.6 fixes

* QA update (Joel)
        + QA Contest update
                + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Projects/Bug_Triage_Contest
                + 15+ people signed up so far ... encouraging.
        + French / translated BSA is completed
                + filed a bug through it, asking to change relevant links
                + many thanks to Rob Snelders [!]
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
                +163    -128
                thanks to top five:
                        ign_christian: 28
                        Rob Snelders:  14
                        Michael Meeks:  7
                        Eike Rathke:    7
                        Andras Timar:   5
        + Need_Advice bugs input appreciated
                + 5 bugs in that state
                + http://tinyurl.com/ce6d8km
        + curiosity about %age of patches back-ported to stable
                + poked into it: around 60% of 4.1 fixes go back to 4.0 as well.
                        + 13% are back-ported to 3.6
                + don't want to break stable by back-porting everythign (Bjoern)
        + thanks to TDF & Bjoern for getting tester netbooks deployed
                + three out there - 2x Windows 8 and 1 Linux.

* GSOC update (Cedric)
        + please mentor your students, mid-term evaluations
          from Mon 29th July until end of that week.

* gerrit bits (Bjoern)
        + check that all devs and gerrit admins are subscribed to an OTRS queue
                + Norbert, Thorsten, Bjoern are there.
        + only ten people who are devs
AI:     + dig out docs on signing up to the OTRS queue (Bjoern)

* UX input (Astron)
        + setup a UX Advice bz component and default CC the ux-advise ML
                + unless someone wants to write a script to scrape keywords
                  and proxy to mail.
                + idea with component => the better idea.
        + icons on master:
                + added Sifr to the default icon set
                + approved: remove crystal from the default binary build
                  configuration (retaining Oxygen) to keep space requirements
                  constant.
                        + leave crystal icons in the source tree for packagers
        + Android remote discussion improvements
                + perhaps another whiteboard for iOS - somewhat different.

* Hamburg hack-fest update (Bjoern)
        + it was awesome.
        + achieved quite a few nice things:
          https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2013#Achievements
        + great beer event at the beginning (sponsored by Lanedo)
        + hacked until 4am.
        + nice group photo (missing Florian)
                
https://picasaweb.google.com/104737754628780823336/20130617_Hamburg#5890737500602109074
AI:     + write a short blog entry with photos (Eike)

* Investing in even better productivity (Michael)
        + Bought CrossOver office licenses ...
                + mail me if you could use one of this to improve
                  productivity.

* Added git commit access for:
        + Issa - for Sifr icons (Michael)

* People who are not members, should consider that (Michael)
        + benefits: voting for and standing for election in
          Board / Membership Committee
        + Certification etc. apply at:
          http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/application-for-tdf-community-membership/
        + election / membership deadlines coming up soon.

* gerrit build-bot awesomeness (Michael)
        + it appears to work rather well, we have hardware coming
                + can we enable it for all committers ?
        + problem originally was around getting more build H/W (Norbert)
                + with this we should be able to do ~all commits in a day
        + is there a wiki page to follow to setup buildbots ? (Thorsten)
                + need ssh / ids setup to make this work (Norbert)
AI:             + get windows build-bot setup (Norbert/Thorsten/Moggi)
        + how to trigger builds ? (Norbert)
                + if you do a +2 - as a committer, but don't push it,
                  auto trigger a build
        + can we give out the ssh command - so committers can trigger
          them explicitly ? (Bjoern)
                + currently ssh command makes you root (Norbert)
                + prefer to have a criteria to auto-schedule
                  manual +2 without commit, just a safety precaution
                  to avoid destruction.
                + DavidO has it already done in the plugin (Bjoern)
        + block on getting Win32 tinderbox

* Bulk change of header include style (Michael)
        + thoughts on this:
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65108
        + defer until 4.1.2 or so - when cherry-picking reduces
        + concern that angle brackets only for system headers (Stephan)
        + discussed this in the past, MS compiler does insane things
          with path lookups if you use quotes (Bjoern)
                + what ? (Stephan)
                + walks entire include path backwards (Bjoern)
                + http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/36k2cdd4%28v=vs.71%29.aspx
        + libxml - is that a local or a system include ? (Norbert)
                + in the code we can't know that, notion is a bit fuzzy
                + no need to violate the std for no reason (Stephan)
                        + performance might be a good idea.
        + potential compromise: have "" for files in the same
          directory as the cxx (Michael)
                + indifferent to cleaning it up (Stephan)
        + discuss it on the list

* Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)

* Open 4.2 MAB
        + 0/0
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675

* Open 4.1 MAB
        + 4 (of 39) older 5/37 7/32 3/26 3/23 4/17 3/16 3/16 3/14 2/13 2/11
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB
        + 12 (of 132) older 16/132 14/130 16/129 16/128 18/129 17/126 18/125 24/122
             9%              12%    11%    13%    14%    13%    14%     20%    19%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 63 (of 237) older 65/236 68/235 67/232 69/231 71/229 72/228 75/226 75/225
             27%             28%    29%    30%    31%    32%    33%    33%    34%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
        + 37 (of 114) older 39/114 41/112 36/105 35/100 36/100 30/90 28/88 26/85
                http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 299(+4) bugs open of 1641(+18) total

        * ~Component   count net *
                Writer - 100 (+0)
          Presentation -  29 (+0)
               Crashes -  26 (+1)
           Spreadsheet -  24 (+4)
           Libreoffice -  24 (-2)
              Database -  23 (+0)
               Drawing -  21 (+2)
               Borders -  14 (+0)
             Migration -   3 (+0)
                 BASIC -   2 (+0)

        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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