minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
        + Andras, Joel, Thorsten, Stephan, Michael S, Markus,
          Michael M, Bjoern, Petr, Cedric, Norbert, Astron, Lionel

* Completed Action Items
        + push updated branding for 4.0.1 RC1; send TDF branded
          versions out to ESC list (Astron)
        + get LotusLive / CMIS fixes in (need review) (Michael)
        + gerrit messaging politeness improvements (Norbert)
        + 32bit and 64bit RHEL5 tinderboxen setup (Caolan)
        + create/request mail alias for certification (Bjoern)
        + poke marketing wrt. announcing dis-continuation of 3.5.x (Petr)
        + check RHEL5 dbus-glib / bluez bits for bluetooth (Caolan)

* Pending Action Items
        + tweak default assignee / mail alias to include 'un-assigned@' (Joel)
        + ping Marc wrt. creatign a page with certified consultants in
          alphabetical order with rates etc. (Joel)
        + poke docs team wrt. writing off-line help for impress-remote (Thorsten)
        + Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern)
                + sent to Tollef - who is deadly busy just now.
**      + Update gsoc ideas page
          https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas (all)
                + everybody should update their their tasks and add new ones
        + full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517
                + pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S
        + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M)
        + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
        + Ubuntu font licensing questions, clarify at Canonical (Bjoern)
        + helping out with code-pointers for UI bugs (Kendy)
                + reviewed them with Mirek in person, pointers pending
                + 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-ux-advise/2013-February/001817.html
        + on-line update tweaks (Kendy)
                => upgrade everything to 3.6.5
                => upgrade all 3.*.0 -> 4.0.0

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 4.0.1 rc1 status
                + builds are available / heading to mirrors
                + lots of issues fixed.
                + deadline for rc2 is Monday ...
        + 3.6.6 rc1 commit deadline 1 month out: Monday Mar 18

* UX input (Astron)
        + new icon set discussion ongoing
        + new icon for impress remote under discussion
AI:     + look at gradient / clipart issues (Michael)
        + kendy on FTO wrt. UX easy hacks.

* GSOC 2013 (Cedric)
        + April 8th deadline
        + Please update the great ideas page at that date:
                + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas

* Coverity reports (Markus)
        + we have a nice report to work through; register:
          http://scan.coverity.com/user_register.html
          project: LibreOffice
        + and send your account details to Markus / Norbert.
        + already fixed a lot of issues, but plenty more to go
        + Markus up-loads builds regularly
        + false positives can be flagged, please update the
          tool with issue status (Norbert)

* Automated crash on import test results (Markus)
        + found a nasty toolchain bug on SLES11 (thanks Stephan)
        + issues with libunordflo loading in dbgutil builds
AI:     + look into it before publishing updated stats (Michael S)
        + 1 day for writer files, 16 hours for calc files,
          adding impress files: > 2.5 days
        + WIP to integrate this with Jenkins & graphing (Norbert)

* Proposal to rework packaging, now that gbuild is ~done (Bjoern)
        + push to the list for discussion
        + kills solver (and links directly in WORKDIR)
        + kills solenv/bin/modules, and much of scp2
        + concerns about platform-dependent / windows MSI hierarchies & extensions
          proposal/WiP:
                 https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/2298/
        + Tor is doing a complementary re-work for Mac pkg structure

* progress on ns Date / timestamp issue (Lionel)
AI:     + continue discussion & come to a conclusion (Stephan/Lionel/Thorsten)

* Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)
        + purpose of it ? (Joel)
                + encourage users to pay for support from certified (active,
                  contributing) developers & companies.
        + next step - send lots of beautiful invitation letters.

* Hard Hacks:
        + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
          fdo#37580 - Assign layout malfunction and crash on slide with formula
          fdo#59259 - With some master pages, freezes when try to print
          fdo#59932 - FILEOPEN: Text boxes with bulleted lists containing wrapped text ...
          fdo#48039 - Cross-references disrupted in Master Document
          fdo#40594 - FILEOPEN .docx (MSO2010) does not show CHART object

* QA update (Joel)
        + list of unconfirmed 4.0 bugs is going up - currently 150
          despite the focused hard work of the QA team on these
                + ignoring old 2011 bugs for now
        + does BSA offer some bugs to triage / check ? (Michael)
                + yes, but only a small link at the bottom
        + large proportion of bugs coming in through the BSA
                + stats to follow.
        + QA getting more switched-on to the 'regression' keyword
                + poking at writer regressions (Michael S)
                + a good number in NEEDINFO state
                + some are not regressions some are
                + lots of issues in docx import
                + quality of regression bugs decreased (Markus)
                + poke at history and ping if QA marked in error (Joel)
        + help is needed with triagging the following bugs:
          
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?emailtype1=exact&query_format=advanced&emailassigned_to1=1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=REOPENED&version=4.0.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.alpha1&version=4.0.0.0.beta1&version=4.1.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.beta2&version=4.0.0.1%20rc&version=4.0.0.2%20rc&email1=libreoffice-bugs%40lists.freedesktop.org&product=LibreOffice&list_id=221457

* Open 4.1 MAB / regressions
        + 1 (of 2) older 3/3
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
        + 15 (of 96) older 16/94 16/91 13/79 17/76 10/69 14/64 13/48 13/41 9/34 10/34
             16%            17%   18%   22%   22%   14%   22%   27%   32%  26%   29%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 76 (of 210) older 57/189 44/175 45/175 43/174 42/173 36/166 37/164 34/160
             36%             30%    25%    25%    25%    24%     22%   23%    21%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
        + 0 (of 221) older 28/247 47/264 47/264 48/265 49/266 49/266 50/266 54/268
             0%              11%    18%    18%    18%    18%    18%    19%    20%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1
                + last week: this series is retired ...

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
        + 48 (of 137) older 49/133 47/131 45/126 42/117 40/114 43/110
        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=status_whiteboard&list_id=204265&o1=substring&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&v1=bibisected&product=LibreOffice

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 295(+25) bugs open of 1301(+43) total

        * ~Component   count net *
        + Writer       - 104 (+11)
        + Presentation -  33  (+3)
        + Spreadsheet  -  32  (+4)
        + LibreOffice  -  25  (+6)
        + Crashes      -  23  (+2)
        + Database     -  21  (+1)
        + Drawing      -  15  (-2)
        + Borders      -  12  (+1)
        + Migration    -   5  (+0)
        + Basic        -   2  (+0)

        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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