minutes of ESC call ...

* Present
        + Thorsten, Eike, David, Joel, Markus, Michael M, Norbert,
          Mirek, Andras, Kendy, Petr, Stephan, Lionel, Caolan,
          Fridrich, Florian, Tor

* Completed Action Items
        + get tshirts / hoodies printed (kendy)
        + Presenter console patches 4-0 backport (Ahmad)
                + turns out it was already done
        + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
                + obsolete - a new GSOC is coming soon ...
        + regression catching on tinderbox figure out time-out issues (Markus)
                + python not capable of doing it, switching to C++ instead
        + completed generic / Linux builds -> RedHat (Caolan)
AI:             + could we use it for tinderbox / daily builds first ? (Petr)
        + investigate re-using Win32 binary signing for Mac (Tor)
                + implemented for Mac.
        + tweak the configure defaults (Norbert + Tor)
                + no submodules by default, no gnome-vfs
        + investigate Samba related bugs (Joel)
                + fixed already, will be in 4.0.1
        + STLPort removal - release-note: Document dropping the DLL and the
          VS run-time on the system in the release-notes (Fridrich)
                + German translators have special data for Duden too (nice!)
        + MySQL connector - can/will/where to ship it (Lionel)
                + just needs to be re-compiled vs. not having stlport
                + needs a volunteer to do that.

* Pending Action Items
        + Update gsoc ideas page before FOSDEM
          https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas (all)
                + everybody should update their their tasks and add new ones
        + find person who can write and add off-line help for impress-remote (Thorsten)
        + create/request mail alias for certification (Bjoern)
        + Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern)
        + Investigate native build/env scripts for SDK (Bjoern)
        + full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517
                + pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S
        + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
        + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M)
        + Ubuntu font licensing questions, clarify at Canonical (Bjoern)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 4.0 status / update ...
                + updated on-line help pending fixing server load issues & up-load
                + out; thanks to everyone for their hard work !
        + 4.0.1 rc1 commit deadline 1.5 weeks out: Monday Feb 18
        + 3.6.6 rc1 commit deadline 1 month out: Monday Mar 18
        + 4.1 new features:
                + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1
        + 4.1 MAB (currently just one...)
                + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Server load / status (Florian)
        + main libreoffice website migrated to new server
                + after significant tweaking - is coping nicely with the load
        + thanks to Cloph, Alex, Florian for hand-holding the server.

* FOSDEM update & thanks !
        + dev-room (Markus)
                + went well, very few talks over-ran, despite 20min talks
                + finished on time 5:20
                + several positive responses from having more shorter talks
                  instead of fewer longer ones.
                + thanks to Fridrich for taking over Kendy's MINGW talk
                + many thanks to Markus for his hard work organising the programme
        + booth report (Thorsten)
                + all around wonderful, really lots of people - around 20x
                  guys from the project helping out at/around the booth
                + Cor's very nice ribbon legend, and fine banner
                + very extensive swag give-aways from Kendy ... running out
                  of space on the tables to put anything else: and stack of
                  boxes nearby.
                + Thanks to all who helped out.

* UX input (Mirek)
        + 4.0/4.x branding
                + E-mail voting update
                + google-docs document where this takes place, closing on Saturday
                + partly depends on Alex.
                  
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsGS28t6YMF3dHFrTm9hMzZVNk9hNEZMN0NSbV9ZbXc#gid=0
        + theme colors / color-picker
                + might we adopt themes ?
                + yes - but no-one working on this just now.
        + ux-advise / possible easy-hacks ...
                + 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-ux-advise/2013-February/001817.html
AI:             + will help out giving code pointers for some bugs (Kendy)

* un-publishing interface in 4.0.1 (Kohei / Stephan)
        + concern about doing that in a micro release.
        + resolved on the mailing list.

* back-port Mac signing for 4.0.1 (Norbert / Tor)
        + requires some tweaked XCode version / setup &
          getting certificates into the keychain for signing
AI:     + review them for the -4-0 branch (Norbert / Thorsten?)
        + is it possible to do that without installing full XCode ? (Norbert)
                + yes, done in the Makefile on the command-line (Tor)

* Android remote signing for 4.0 (Thorsten)
        + either use a key that expires in a year, or
          use self-signed certificates - with some 20yrs of validity
                + in absence of better guesses - use self-signing to more
                  easily push updates.
        + fiddling with tag / pushing from -4-0 branch.

* Hard Hacks:
        + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
                + QA meeting tomorrow to update these.
                + split between 3.6.x and 4.0.x

* QA update (Joel)
        + need to triage / unwind 3.5 MAB's ...
                + hopefully by next week be able to migrate those
        + QA going smoothly ...
                + a couple of new people on QA / chat recently
                + active team is growing - which is encouraging
        + ongoing discussion about whether to close long-term
          un-responsive NEEDINFO bugs ...
                + tentative proposal so far:
                        reminder after ~6 months of no response.
                        and a month after -> INVALID
                + no developers spoke up wrt. bug-spam for closing /
                  reminding in issues.
                + final outcome up to the QA team to decide
                  themselves of course.
        + help is needed with triagging the following bugs:
          
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?emailtype1=exact&query_format=advanced&emailassigned_to1=1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=REOPENED&version=4.0.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.alpha1&version=4.0.0.0.beta1&version=4.1.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.beta2&version=4.0.0.1%20rc&version=4.0.0.2%20rc&email1=libreoffice-bugs%40lists.freedesktop.org&product=LibreOffice&list_id=221457
        + focusing on stopping 4.0 bugs getting out of hand via triage:
                + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugTriage

* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
        + 16 (of 91) older 13/79 17/76 10/69 14/64 13/48 13/41 9/34 10/34 11/31 6/21
             18%            22%   22%   14%   22%   27%   32%  26%   29%   35%   29%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 44 (of 175) older 45/175 43/174 42/173 36/166 37/164 34/160 35/158 32/153
             25%             25%    25%    24%     22%   23%    21%    22%    21%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
        + 47 (of 264) older 47/264 48/265 49/266 49/266 50/266 54/268 62/277 64/279
             18%             18%    18%    18%    18%    19%    20%    22%    23%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
        + 47 (of 131) older 45/126 42/117 40/114 43/110
        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=status_whiteboard&list_id=204265&o1=substring&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&v1=bibisected&product=LibreOffice

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 254(+11) bugs open of 1218(+30) total

        * ~Component   count net *
        + Writer       - 88 (-1)
        + Presentation - 28 (+3)
        + Spreadsheet  - 22 (+0)
        + Database     - 21 (+2)
        + Crashes      - 20 (+5)
        + LibreOffice  - 17 (-1)
        + Drawing      - 15 (+1)
        + Borders      - 11 (+0)
        + Migration    - 5  (+0)
        + Basic        - 4  (+2)

        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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