[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes - QA Call 2012/11/30

*Time Start: 1405 UTC


Participants: Bjoern, Joel, Florian, Petr
    +Another participant was present, apologies for not getting name

*Completed Action Items
    +BSA
        -Invitation to participate after submitting a bug [Rob]
    +Wiki
        -Basic triage instructions (BSA linked to this page) [Joel & Petr]
    +FDO
        -Renamed 3.7 master to 4.0 master and moved bugs [Joel]

*Pending Action Items
    +FDO
        -Old Bugs (6+ months, no activity) Options
            *Concern that really old bugs are no longer bugs any longer 
on current releases but that they were fixed independent of the bug and 
therefore never marked as               RESOLVED → FIXED
            *New White Board Status Possible (Inactive)
            *Lower Priority Automatically
                -Problems with this, not a good option
            *Using Enhancement Status More
                -Concern that bugs might be listed as Enhancement 
accidentally
            *Any option will require communication with bug submitter 
to ask for further testing
            *This isn't an urgent matter and any solution should be 
well thought out before implementing
        -Identifying Most Active Bugs
            *Similar to the heat meter which Canonical uses for bugs
            *Joel is going to play around with FDO and see if there's 
any way we can do something similar internally

    +Bugzilla OpenID Alternatives
        -OpenID is not an option
            *Bjoern will discuss with Tolef to find out if there are 
alternatives
          *Possibilities include GoogleID, Facebook, Twitter
        -Goal to have one authenticator is unlikely to occur
            *Florian is a big fan of Google Login
    +BSA
        -Localization
            *Rob discussed during hackfest, said sounds good should be 
doable
            *Joel will email Rob for Update

    +Twitter Feed
        -Twitter feed to announce bug fixes (great for 
marketing/getting more volunteers involved)
            *Bjoern researching this, will ping Florian about this
        -Note that there is a max per hour for tweets but we shouldn't 
hit this limit

    +Goals
        -Punt until after release of version 4.0

    +Hard Hacks
        -Keep an eye out for hard hacks
        -Joel add 57619

*New Items
    +Meetbot
        -Meetbot is set up and Bjoern/Joel played around with it, 
weren't quite comfortable enough to use it yet
        -Not very functional for making agendas
        -Minutes uploaded to TDF server, not Wiki
            *Joel will link to documents from wiki
        -Goal to try during next QA Call

    +Funding Wish List
        -Discussed Marc's funding wish list 
*http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Funding_Priorities
        -Going to be a limited funding request because most larger 
items paid for, just need volunteers to implement
        -QA Travel Expenses
            *Travel expenses not paid separate from main fund, no need 
to request
        -FDO Improvements
            *Possibly pay someone through a contract to implement some 
of Rainer's list of improvements to FDO
        -http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/How_to_Improve_Bugzilla
            *Bjoern will go through list and prioritize them, try to 
come up with amount
        -Prizes/Thank You's for most active QA volunteers
            *Possible, need to discuss more and come up with concrete plan

    +Leadership Structure/”Board of QA”
        -First thing has to be getting call right and getting more 
people involved
        -Question about if we need a board at all is still up in the air
        -Joel will announce next Call to user list as a test to see how 
it goes

+Triage Contest
    -General agreement that this is a good idea
    -Date is a concern, right after final release of 4 might be good 
because a lot of people are excited about the release
    -Bjoern will talk to TDF Board about money
    -Joel will start creating a wiki
    -Next meeting we will discuss more details
    -Talk to Cor Nouws & Italo Vignoli about their experience
    -See 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugHunting_Session_3.5.0.-1 for 
example

*To Do List

    +Joel
        -See if we can get some “heat meter” internally with what is 
available on FDO
        -Make wiki for triage contest
        -Contact Rob about localized BSA
        -Announce next QA call on user list
        -Add hard hack
        -Get comfortable with meetbot

    +Bjoern
        -OpenID Alternatives
        -Twitter Feed
        -Go through FDO list to see if we can pay someone to implement 
changes
        -Discuss money with TDF for triage contest

Time End: 1505 UTC