* Present:
+ Rainer, David, Andras, Lionel, Norbert, Christian L,
Kendy, Caolan, Mitch, Stephan, Michael M, Cedric, Petr,
Astron, Bjoern
* Completed Action Items
+ notify all committers when we have a nice simple, minimal
statement of what is required for gerrit written (Bjoern)
+ maildrop for Gerrit (Bjoern)
+ http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-August/036600.html
+ send mail starting [PATCH] to gerrit at libreoffice.org
initial implementation done, could need some tweaking, like:
- adding the mail body (and the time and sender of the mail)
- maildropped patches do not get firehosed to the ML (unless CCed) as the
uploader is the gerritbot himself and thus he get no email notification
about his upload -- a firehose based on openstacks IRC bot should solve this
and not be too hard (and that one is now properly licensed, so we can fork it)
- allowing adding comments via email (though no approval -- to much
authentication troubles)
+ file an easy-hack to ship a binary to zip user-profile for debugging (Petr)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53583
+ update QA FAQs / challenge answers to encourage moving
profiles away instead of deleting (Rainer)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile
+ http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/2012-August/002251.html
* Pending Action Items
+ 4.0 issues (Everyone)
+ everyone interested in cleanups - claim your work until next ESC!
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4
+ make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich)
+ crediting: can we separate tempates in the credits page (Spaetz)
+ re-think our bundled font list (Astron / design-team)
* GSOC update (Cedric)
+ Monday 13th deadline for code
+ next week - students & mentors need to fulfill the evaluation
+ students need to prepare a tar.gz with patches
+ is: git log -u --author='Andrzej' > /tmp/big-patch.diff
+ adequate (eg.) or is splitting them mandatory, use eg.
+ git rev-list --author='Andrzej' master
+ drop-dead-line for reviews Aug 24th
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 3.6.1 RC1 update
+ being up-loaded to mirrors, hopefully for announce
tomorrow, on-track
+ deadline for RC2 on Monday
+ hope to have extensions troubles nailed & a much
better experience left & right.
+ big pre-reg removal so far appears sound
+ 3.6.2 rc1 - September 17th
+ 3.5.6 retrospective
+ released yesterday, smooth release
+ potentially hard to find how to download it
+ 3.5.7 rc1 - October 12th
* download / version selection issues
+ always complicated to have 2x downloads on
the same page (Astron)
+ can we label point-zero releases in some
better way ?
+ chicken-egg problem around testing
+ would an improved testing program help ?
+ encouraging more people to download it.
+ We could list other versions explicitly instead
of having the multiple selection pages marked
"Change system, version, language" (Cloph)
* Editing website performance (Cloph)
+ issue with editing the website - takes the site
down for a long delay.
+ we've had load issues on the server; php processes
taking too much CPU; setup VM to do some profiling
this weekend
+ issues for two weeks, since re-start;
looking (Cloph)
+ user-rendered pages, not affected, only editing
+ xcache investigation - no impact either way
+ leap-second bug related (Nobert?)
* UI / design update (Astron)
+ started the fonts discussion, proposals on a wiki page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Wishlists/Fonts
* gerrit -> freedesktop migration
+ planned for Friday night European time,
+ starting over the weekend; push to gerrit instead
+ E-mail will be sent when it's ready.
+ pushing to freedesktop will give a helpful
warning instead.
+ so *still* regular git, normal git push - just a
different server.
* Call for Papers - talks @ LibreOffice con
+ http://conference.libreoffice.org/call-for-paper
+ more talks, particularly short talks appreciated
+ Android / cross-compilation - Tor
AI: + release mgmt & QA round-table - Petr
AI: + CMIS - why it rocks - Cedric
AI: + overview of Base easy-hacks - Lionel
AI: + easy-hacks - the workshop (Michael)
AI: + 15mins improving on-line updates (Kendy)
AI: + 15mins wiki help update (Kendy)
* bugzilla / gerrit integration (Bjoern)
+ concern about getting spammed a lot.
+ if only one mail if there is a patch at all, it doesn't hurt too much
+ changing it is an easy-hack
* GUADEC update (Michael)
+ liblibreoffice interest for libevince like embedding
+ complementary to mobile device work.
+ potential tracker indexing bits
+ come up in conversation - difficult to work out what's up
+ hacked on gstreamer
* QA update (Rainer)
+ needinfo mass-close panic subsiding
+ not optimal, but it is what it is,
+ Rainer happy to deal with complaints, just fwd.
+ what's up with the MINGW / win-7 tinderbox slave
+ it was harming a five-year-old beast / test
machine we run it on
AI: + re-start it soon (Kendy)
+ Rainer wants to triage MINGW bugs.
+ introducing 'HardHacks' (Bjoern)
+ 3.6.0 flameage
+ QA team suggested picking five top-bugs each
two weeks in their call, need to be:
+ among MAB
+ triaged as far as possible
+ best prepared bugs: symbol traces,
reproducible etc.
+ throw these over to the ESC
+ quest for volunteers here to dig into them.
+ want a hard-hacks query - with five hits
+ bug list into minutes for call etc. (5mins)
+ briefly discuss them each week
+ suck it see next week (Rainer)
+ producing a bibsect repository for Windows (Norbert)
+ new bug report page - with search for duplicates [!] ...
+ Bjoern's hard-hack idea ...
* git-review thoughts (Bjoern)
* 4.0 - ongoing discussion (Kendy)
+ best ideas heard so far: to do an ABI thaw for 4.0,
and keep in place until after 4.1 - 1 year for ABI
fixing.
* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 21 (of 80) older 11/58 12/55 11/48 8/42 10/37 11/35 5/26 5/21 3/19 4/15
26% 19% 22% 23% 19% 27% 31% 19% 24% 16% 27%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 76 open (of 256) older 75/253 77/253 73/250 72/249 67/244 70/243 73/241
30% 30% 30% 29% 29% 27% 29% 30%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1
* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 166(-11) bugs open of 736(+13) total
* ~Component count net *
+ Writer - 67 (+0)
+ Presentation - 19 (-2)
+ Crashes - 14 (-6)
+ LibreOffice - 14 (-3)
+ Spreadsheet - 14 (-2)
+ Database - 10 (-1)
+ Drawing - 12 (+1)
+ Borders - 9 (+0)
+ Migration - 8 (+1)
+ Writer / RTF - 4 (-3)
+ Basic - 2 (+0)
+
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489
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