minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
        + Tor, Rainer, Andras, Fridrich, Caolan, David, Michael,
          Bjoern, Kendy, Michael S, Petr, Elidh, Lubos, Thorsten,
          Stephan, Norbert

* Completed Action Items
        + Hamburg Hackfest
                + blog some artwork for 'going to the LibreOffice hack-fest' (All)
                  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2012
                + TDF blog entry publicising the Hamburg hack-fest (Fridrich)
                        + lapsed.
        + extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
                + abandoned / getting new hardware from NGO
        + string dump / dissection scriptage (Michael)
        + re-file fdo#47857 as a bug in the KDE file picker (Michael)
        + drop exception specs from new string constructors (Lubos)

* Pending Action Items
        + [nearly done] review and re-close 3.4.x MAB fixed in 3.5.x (Rainer)
        + add a bold heading to GSOC page: LibreOffice is easy & fun to hack (Cedric)
        + rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
        + poke RedHat security guy wrt. keys (Caolan)

* Action Items review

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.5.2 retrospective
                + released today, thanks for great work
                + smooth release, almost no delays
                + plenty more annoying / critical 3.5 bugs to fix
        + 3.5.3 rc1 deadline - April 16th (next Monday)

* GSOC update (Fridrich)
        + applications have to be submitted before tomorrow
          evening european time (12:00 California time)
                + bug students if they want to apply
        + have 12 applications as of now
                + 3x for smartphone control of slideshow
                + good to encourage students to spread out.
AA:     + mail the mailing list wrt. filing urgency (Fridrich)

* MSI cross-compile building (Tibbylickle)
        + wine is building nicely
        + cross-compilation is busted as of today
        + perl stuff seems straightforward
AA:     + help Ellie get mingw build going (Tor)

* exception / compilation issue (Lubos)
        + current situation doesn't make sense, exception specifications
          are there, but errors triggered only for clang compiler
        + either enforce them for gcc -and- clang, or not for either ?
        + potential for breaking things if we just remove them (sberg)
        + Solaris compiler did enforce them until we abdoned it a year ago
                + so code state is still reasonable
        + problems debugging what goes wrong with wrong exceptions (Lubos)
                + remove gcc option that disables checking for debug build ?
        + reason checking exceptions turned off
                - makes binaries even larger (Caolan)
AA:     + turn exception checking on for gcc in debug builds (Lubos)
                + makes clang building happier

* re-discuss default of encryption option (Thorsten)
        + do we need to re-visit this, cf. 2011/08/18
          consensus to back-port etc. ?
        + question of defaults, code to handle read/write old & new
          style encryption - should we stick with known poor old-style
          ODF encryption to improve interop.
                + other office suites can use the old encryption
        + fewer bugs reports expected for conservative users
                + legacy crypto issue shows as
                  'file is corrupted' (Norbert)
        + there is a configuration setting for default encryption (Michael S)
                + but no UI => add a new UI option for encryption.
                + not for 3.5.x code-line.
        + choosing a known-weak algorithm is not ideal (Norbert)
        + chaff work + new encryption are much stronger (Michael)
AA:     + switch default back for 3.5, keep as in 3.6 + add UI option (Thorsten)
        + MS filters don't support encryption at all (Thorsten)

* Apple developer enrollment
AA:     + working on it as we speak (Thorsten)

* update our license header for new code to MPLv2
AA:     + update the template (Michael)

* unowned easy-hacks ... (Bjoern)
        + all but 12 bugs now have owners
                - Bjoern manually filed them from the wiki
                - can't own all of them
        *** Anything not owned by people will be closed in one week ***
                + please check & CC yourself on any you want to save:
                        + http://bit.ly/I5J6nj

* new bytemark tinderboxen (Norbert)
        + currently being setup
        + 2x boxes kindly provided by Bytemark
                + 1x windows
                        + installed cygwin,
                        + need a VC++ ...
                + 1x Debian
                        + do generic linux builds
                        + run 4x VM's for BSDs ?
        + Other ideas (Caolan)
                + or run startup times under callgrind [!]
                        + and build regressions / memory usage metrics ?
                + or magically do bibisect packing ?
                + few 100'Gb's of storage ...
        + Michael S
                + had convwatch tests revived ...
                  bitmap output comparisons to avoid layout regressions ?
        + we have another Linux box coming on-line soon
                + TDF / SUSE hardware
AA:             + there / ready / firewall issues getting solved (Thorsten)
AA:     + give bytemark access to Caolan (Norbert)

* QA update (Rainer / Bjoern / Markus)
        + business as usual - nothing to report
        + pleased with enough Windows daily builds
        + how can we get new code contributors to contribute to bug fixing ?
                + discuss in person at Hackfest
                + turn more simple bugs into easy hacks ?

* updating internal packages for windows
        + libxml etc. are easy but ICU real killer (Caolan)
                + limiting factor is win build magic
        + ICU
                + they distribute project files for latest
                  MS compiler
                + project files, different to 2008
                  file-format
                + no tool to downgrade MS compiler versions
                        + perl script to downgrade it doesn't work
                          anymore for new ICUs
                + tried with Tor, to build with VS2010
                        + all managed code crashes: climaker bustage
                        + no time to track down, prolly wrong run-time
        + other things to update
                + glib2, cairo, openssl, etc.
        + for linux, basically follow MacOS/X model (Caolan)
                + for anything that OS/X considers a system library
                + for universal builds: drop libxml cf. OS/X
AA:     + pull up versions for 3.6 (Fridrich)
                + fix name clashes with the system

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
        + jump from consolidating the 3.4 issues:
        + 73 open (of 193), older 66/183 58/168 57/157 58/153 52/145 49/140 44/132 41/124
             38%                   36%    35%    36%    37%    36%    35%    33%    33%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 134(-1) bugs open of 443(+11) total

        * Component    count net *
        + Writer       - 51 (+2)
        + Presentation - 18 (+3)
        + Writer / RTF - 14 (-4)
        + LibreOffice  - 13 (+0)
        + Drawing      - 10 (+0)
        + Database     - 8  (+1)
        + Spreadsheet  - 2  (-2)
        + Basic        - 2  (+0)

        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764

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