minutes of ESC call ...

* Present
        + Rainer, Stephan, Eike, David, Mitch, Michael, Lionel
          Kendy, Bjoern, Cedric, Caolan, Michael S, Thorsten,
          Petr, Kohei

* Completed Action Items
        + branch 'build', 'bootstrap' as libreoffice-3-5 or sim.,
          and wipe master with a helpful link (Michael S)
                + talk to Michael S afterwards (Michael M)
        + come up with bug assignment proposal (Rainer/Bjoern/Petr)
        + update the wiki bug filing guidelines wrt. ~ignore apache issues (Rainer)
        + more bibisect evangelism on the QA mailing list (Bjoern)
        + request to re-fix top-level 'make check' to build code first (Norbert)

* Pending Action Items
        + [slow progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
                + sysadmin promised action, kendy chasing ...
        + rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
            + needs fd.o admin help, bug for that created, Tollef on vacation
            + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45354
        + disable bundling of C++ stdlib in 3.5.1 & see how it goes (Petr)

* Action Items review

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.5.0 release retrospective
                + went smoothly vs. 3.4.0, biggest problems with Beta 0
                + many annoying bugs fixed but
                        + 'most annoying' not nominated until rather too late.
                + very few blockers arrived before release.
                + too soon to judge how good it is.
                + misc. annoyances wrt. 'rc3' string showing up in final.
                        + new numbering scheme planned for 3.5.1
        + 3.5.1
                + RC1 freeze & branch libreoffice-3-5-1 on Monday/Tuesday
                        + tripple approval for 3.5.1 after that +
                        + 1 week later RC2 => final.
                + large numbers of bug fixes queued up here already
        + 3.4.6
                + three weeks from now: March 5th RC1 deadline
                + encouraging to see lots of fixes going in 'for free'

* thread-safety / deadlock issue in 3.5.0 (Stephan)
        + legacy libstdc++ stuff probably not thread-safe
                + awaiting feedback from Dave.
        + removing stdlibs is prolly the workaround

* Poor install flow / JRE issue (Michael)
        + clobber the context patch on the list
AA:     + finding a better way for 3.5.1 if possible (Stephan)

* GSOC update (Cedric)
        + we have three weeks (until March 9th) to apply as an org.
                + already have a wiki page from last year's
        + need a good ideas page, of things people want to hack on
                + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas
        + tasks need good evaluation criteria

* QA update (Rainer)
        + Windows - missing master builds issue
                + switch fast win32 tinderbox back to master post 3.5.1 (Kendy)
                + hopefully that will address this
        + 3.4.6 - quite a lot of fixes
                + no-one marking bugs as most annoying 3.4
                        + fine to keep it like that
                + can we close 3.4 most annoying bug ?
                        + close it after 3.4.6 (Petr)
                + check for missing issues on 3.5 most annoying
        + page border feature
                + has been discussed in September 2011; ux-advise etc.
                        + also discussed in openoffice times
                + in daily builds, betas/rc's etc. for months
                + "sending mail is much easier than reading mail" (Lionel)
                + inevitable that for any given (noticeable) feature
                  this will happen (Thorsten)
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/ChangingTheBugStateMeanings
                + general approval
                + concern to avoid mass changes
AA:             + adopt the new proposal without the mass changes (Rainer)

        which is this:

    UNCONFIRMED/NEEDSINFO: incomplete bugs that have not yet been
    checked to be completely triaged to the point that a developer can
    start working on it

    NEW regardless of assignee: confirmed/triaged bugs waiting for a
    developer to pick up (preferably the one it is assigned, or
    better: CC'ed, to)

    ASSIGNED bugs: bugs a developer has accepted and intends to work on

* FOSDEM dev-room slide aggregation (Stephan)
        + get links to FOSDEM slides into the wiki (All)
          http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2012
AA:     + find eager volunteer to prettify / chronologically arrange /
          thumbnail / cleanup the wiki page (Michael)

* ODF issues (Michael Stahl)
        + use the whiteboard for issues related to ODF documented here:
                + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugTriage
AA:     + need to add some blurb fdo#44498 to release note (Petr)

* gerrit bits (Bjoern)
        + new hardware coming on-line for this service thanks to Robert Einsle
AA:     + remind Michael wrt. the bug for access (Bjoern) [ fdo#46132 ]

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
        + 44 (of 132) open, last weeks: 41/124, 32/104, 28/93, 21/76, 23/71
                33%                      33%,    30%,    30%,   28%,   32%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
                + 96(+7) bugs open of 330 (+5) total
        * Component    count net *
        + Writer       - 39 (+3)
        + Drawing      - 10 (+5)
        + LibreOffice  - 10 (+1)
        + Presentation - 8  (+0)
        + Spreadsheet  - 7  (+0)
        + Database     - 5  (-2)
        + Basic        - 5  (+1)

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