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No those days aren't the only way to test. But it is a way to get more people to test the software and to test the software in ways that the developers won't think about. I think there are enough people that want to help but don't know how, and testing is a easy way to step in.

At last I also hear from people around me that LO tests way to little because of all the bugs that have pleaged the 3.4-series. When we shout this around people can see we do test and are doing our best to get bugs out of the software.

All in all I would say it is needed to organise these events..

Greetings,
Rob Snelders

On di 22 nov 2011 20:03:33 CET, Petr Mladek wrote:
Cor Nouws píše v So 19. 11. 2011 v 16:56 +0100:
Cor Nouws wrote (13-11-11 21:20)
Rainer Bielefeld wrote (11-11-11 20:06)

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Improving_QA-Release-3.5

I'm afraid "Try to get more testers doing the testing earlier" will be
the critical/limiting condition.
[...]

The idea here is the following:
When a beta is announced, many people jump in to test. Now it would be
great if we could attract (part of) that group to start working with the
developer builds asap after feature freeze!
(Arrows #1 on slide 23)

Would that make sense?

So, while at our 4th Dutch LibreOffice (Hackers) event, we discussed this.
Since in The Netherlands we have both a busy Sinterklaas fest and a long
Christmas time, and we are already in the end of November, there is
little change in organising a successful test-event in December,
Anyway not for us.
A test-event, was one of the ideas from the presentation (1), slide #24

So we think about January 21, convenient for all involved here.
But looking at the release plan, that is just after the RC1 for 3.5.0.
Which is sad, because the goal is to get more people test early, thus
after the first/second build after feature freeze...

   - Would it be an idea to work parallel in some countries (France,
Germany)...?
   - January 21 is a possibility..
   - But another moment earlier too, so that some of us (Nl/Flanders)
could join virtual?

Heh, the first beta should be available on December 9. I hope that we
could do lots testing already in December.

We should not need an exact date to do some testing. We are improving
the Limus server [1] and fill reasonable test cases there.
We will create test run when the beta1 is available. Anyone could jump
in and process few tests when time permits. The server will clearly show
what was tested, what still needs testing. Testers could work completely
independently.

Organized events are fine but it can be done other way. We do not need
to depend on them.

IMPORTANT: We are looking for people creating test cases[2].


Reference:

[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Litmus
     https://tcm.documentfoundation.org/
[2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Test_Case


Best Regards,
Petr

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