[Libreoffice] minutes of tech. steering call ...

* Present:
        + Eike, Bjoern, Andras, Michael, Tor, Norbert, Stephan,
          Caolan, Kohei, Michael S, Thorsten, Lionel, Mitch

* Completed Action Items
        + add easy hack to kill PRODUCT in favour of DBG_UTIL (Bjoern)
        + ask wrt. hacking php to improve easy-hacks presentation (Bjoern)
        + reply to Peter's RFC wrt. tail_build (Norbert)

* Pending Action Items
        + default to TM safe (non-TDF) branding (Thorsten)
        + enable on-line updates for QA in cross-compiled dailies [in progress] (Kendy)
        + [in progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy)
        + come up with a list of QA heros for next meeting [in progress] (Rainer)
        + ask Christian wrt. Mac / PPC (Fridrich)
        + add unexpected mingw regressions to MingW 'most-annoying' (Rainer)
        + send ssh keys for Linux build machine access to Fridrich (Caolan)
        + [in progress] concrete debug proposal for the public list (Stephan)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + updated the schedule for 3.4.5 and 3.5.0 as decided on the
          last meeting. See the announce at
          http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-November/020724.html
        + IMPORTANT: deadline for beta0 is less than two weeks from now
        + finally have daily builds for Windows at
                http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/Voreppe_Win32_Tinderbox/master/
                http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/Windows_2008R2/master/
          but not sure how often the build is broken
        + is nervous by the still opened blocker
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42227
                + Radek on it.

* Python / Wizards code / merge (Bjoern)
        + some minor problem blocking it
AA:     + merge for 3.5 strip old versions and await user testing (Bjoern)

* Easy Hacks - poke at them ... (Bjoern)
        + some easy hacks need owner / caretakers & triage:
          http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks_by_required_Skill

* Lionel Elie Mamane
        + been hacking on Base
        + fixing things that annoy him
        + shepherding the postgresql driver in for 3.5

* new MSI packaging (Andras)
        + hack-week project to make single MSI with all langs & VC++ restribs
        + merged to master and ready to go for 3.5
AA:     + add details to 3.5 release page (Andras)
        + some cleanups still required; help-pack testing etc.
        + drops NSIS requirement
        + default to it for 3.5 ...

* consistent tinderbox naming scheme (Thorsten, Norbert)
        + Pedro Lino suggested that
        + names turning up in other scripts
        + seems that it might make it easier for the QA guys, if
        the names began with the target platform, followed by
        an identifier, so that the structure of
        dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily is clearer.  Rainer?
        + helps users find the right downloads from dev-tools domain too
        + problems of specificity: Win2008r2 eg. ?
        + <platform=os-version-arch>@<id>_<free-form-user-friendly-info>
        eg. MacOSX-10.6.0-Intel@25_no_moz_no_binfilter
AA:     + tinderbox owners should change names & Thorsten to prune server (All)

* Meeting Timing
        + doodle poll confirms current time => sticking with that.

* Cool stuff:
        + Android
                + proceeding slowly but surely
                + can package lots of libs into an Android pkg
                + more and more unit tests running: sal fine eg.
                + onto the C++ UNO bridge.
                + lots of strange restrictions on package
                  production and unpacking, lots to investigate
                + nothing useful for end-users yet.
        + Layout code (Caolan)
                + latest of 19 other people's attempts
                + stripped existing obsolete bits from the code
                + OptimalSize hooks are there from previous attempts
                + hapless Word-Count dialog victim being tackled
                + prototyping bits on top of that:
                + XML reader etc. after that
                + .src file conversion to a 'fixed' layout ?
                + no layout inference.
        + python uno scripting (Lionel)
                + named structure member initialization
        + remaining 'build' patches (Bjoern)
                +  finally getting merged or killed, 20 down to 10

* Cross-compiling MSIs building (Mitch)
        + knee-deep in re-factoring build / make_installer perl code
        + to create helpful utility functions for msi creation

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