[Libreoffice] minutes of tech. steering call ...

+ Present:
        + Thorsten, Andras, Michael M, Stephan, Tor, Rainer,
          Mitch, Norbert, Kendy, Michael S, Bjoern, Caolan, Petr

+ Completed
        + add ABI related re-factoring plans to wiki [ on going / indeterminate ]
          at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4
        + update openSymbol with version gap & checks (done by Julien Nabet)
        + hide virus/trojan warnings with XOR mangling for unit tests (Caolan)
        + add C++ cross-compile ABI change issue to release 4 wiki page (Kendy)
        + download page recommends stale version (Thorsten)

+ Pending Action Items
        + default to TM safe (non-TDF) branding (Thorsten)
        + enable on-line updates for QA in cross-compiled dalies ... (Kendy)
        + publicise our list of ODF proposals / extensions [ in progress] (Thorsten)

* Agenda items
        + pending action items
        + Andras's new MSI packaging approach (Andras/Tor)
                + motivation - make Windows installer simpler
                + existing install process has two->three steps, pre-installer,
                  setup.exe, MSI and is not localizeable
                + hack week: created multi-language single MSI for installation
                + why not use it before ? no MSI install at all before (Tor)
                        + should not be an issue anymore
                + the setup.exe level - could pass params to setup installer
                        + old switches can be mapped to std. msiexec switches
AA:             + add l10n improvements to 3.5 release notes (Andras)
AA:             + adding l10n code is currently done by pair of VB Scripts
                  would need to grok & port these to a better tool. (Andras)
AA:             + default to Andras' new MSI building method when this is
                  documented (Andras)
        + release mgmt bits (Petr)
                + nothing much new happening, 3.4.4 RC1 freeze is one
                  week after the conference
                + few more most annoying bugs to be looked at
                + looking forward to discussing 3.5 schedule at conference
        + introduction (Michael Stahl)
                + at Sun/Oracle for four years, part of writer + framework team
                + experience of RDF meta-data (not in such a useful state yet
                  sadly - no copy/paste support of that), writer undo/redo,
                  removed old/obsolete/duplicated stuff, document properties
                  re-implementation, redland module, lots of bug fixes,
                  gbuild on OS/X + Solaris etc.
                + great to have Michael on board at RedHat, plan to poke at
                  the area of change-tracking, and other issues in writer.
        + ESC composition - update it in Paris ?
        + QA update (Rainer)
                + business as usual
                + concern wrt. lots of bugs untouched for months
                  2.3k waiting for review
                + bug report assistant
                        + few issues being kindly unwound by Loic
                        + but getting more reports since it was created
                                + missing operating-system detection,
                        + way better overall for end users.
                + need better co-ordination with the ~10 active QA guys.
AA:             + come up with a list of QA heros for next meeting (Rainer)
        + gbuild multi-repo support (Bjoern)
                + quests through every source root for object files
                        + avoiding symlinks etc.
                + obsolete and potentially already broken, remove it ?
                + general agreement
AA:             + add potential removal of two-layer LibO to plan (Bjoern)
                  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4

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