Re: [Libreoffice] WinDbg ?

>       Are the free Windows debugging tools:
>       http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463009 
>       any good ?

Sure they are. Useful for lower-level debugging where the Visual Studio debugger isn't powerful 
enough. Much closer to gdb-style debugging (even if these, too have a kind of GUI). Can be used to 
debug the kernel even. But they have a steep learning curve. (And a correspondingly speedy 
forgetting curve... [points at himself])

>  (or are they even free) ? ;-)

Free as in beer, sure.

>       And/or should we have steps on:
>       http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/How_to_debug 
>       As to how to go about debugging with them ? 

Well, assuming somebody has time to learn how to do that, why not... But I wouldn't expect normal 
users to be able to do it, no matter how good the instructions.

There is code inside LO to produce more useful stack traces in crashes on Windows, isn't there? Do 
we (accidentally?) diable that? Do we strip symbols from binaries (or don't ship .pdb files) 
without thinking? How much larger would the installer / an installation be on Windows if we shipped 
symbols and made sure backtraces are displayed?

--tml