Re: [libreoffice-design] Merged Toolbar/Notebookbar menu

 UI Layout
  Standard
  Single
  Sidebar
  - separator -
  Contextual groups
  Contextual single
  Tabbed

I like this solution. Maybe instead of calling it Single we could call it
something else: I suggest Minimal or Simple.
The rest of the names look good. How about the Groupedbar? Will it be
called Grouped?

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 11:26 PM, infinitytec <infinitytec@hughes.net>
wrote:

> What if all notebookbar options were separated into individual widgets
> that could be rearranged into whatever order that the user wanted? The
> standard toolbar does kind of have that all ready. The notebookbar could
> then be applied as the main tool section, additional toolbars, and the
> sidebar, configured by presets and user preference.
>
> Any sufficiently advanced technology is magic to those who do not
> understand it.-A variation on Clarke's Third Law
> -------- Original message --------From: "kainz.a" <kainz.a@gmail.com>
> Date: 3/25/18  3:08 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Heiko Tietze <
> tietze.heiko@gmail.com> Cc: LibO Design <design@global.libreoffice.org>,
> Kshitij Pathania <kshitijpathania@gmail.com> Subject: Re:
> [libreoffice-design] Merged Toolbar/Notebookbar menu
> What's the difference between toolbars, sidebar and notebookbars. They are
> different from a dev point of view but from a user perspective they
> shouldn't be separate.
>
> So from my point of view no prefix
>
> but as you ordinary don't want to switch the UI often (you have one
> work-flow) I'm for a section in the configuration dialog where there is
> also some explanation.
>
> In addition the section is the menubar is needed (also for some notebookbar
> implementation this drop down list was used).
>
> Add the different layouts into the configuration dialog give also the
> information what's a notebookbar and a standard toolbar (the icon size can
> be different configured).
>
> Cheers
> Andreas_K
>
> 2018-03-25 21:02 GMT+02:00 Heiko Tietze <tietze.heiko@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > in the patch https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/49575/ Kshitij is
> working
> > on issue tdf#115131 (merging the two menu flavors). The patch works find
> > but we stumbled over the label question. Right now it looks like this
> >
> > Toolbar
> >   Standard
> >   Single
> >   Sidebar
> >   - separator -
> >   Notebookbar > Contextual groups
> >   Notebookbar > Contextual single
> >   Notebookbar > Tabbed
> >
> > My comment was to remove the prefix but Jay disagreed with the remark
> that
> > such a combined menu would better be called UI Layout. The change may
> look
> > like this
> >
> > UI Layout
> >   Standard
> >   Single
> >   Sidebar
> >   - separator -
> >   Contextual groups
> >   Contextual single
> >   Tabbed
> >
> > Now I wonder how users may read "UI Layout > Single", for instance. And
> > calling it "Single Toolbar" is also not that nice thinking about
> "Standard"
> > or "Standard Toolbar" (and suffixes are similarly awkward as prefixes).
> >
> > I still prefer this plain solution as any prefix is a clear indicator for
> > bad usability (meaning the items are actually meant for a submenu). Any
> > opinion?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Heiko
> >
> >
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