Re: [libreoffice-design] Numbering & Bullets

You answer on the ML without reference to the GDoc proposal where most of the issues should be 
solved. Hope I didn't mess up with the approval (everyone is allowed to comment).
And you talk about character style and not paragraph, right? Otherwise it's a bug since ODF talks 
explicitly about the first.

On 04/04/2017 11:02 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi Heiko,
>
> I think there are some things, which need more than a new dialog:
>
> There exists a lot of paragraph styles named "Numbering" and "List",
> but they have no connection to the corresponding list styles.
>
> It is possible to set a paragraph style to an outline level and
> connect it with a list style. But the list level is not bind to the
> outline level. (You need this kind of outline heading, if you give an
> appendix an ABC outline numbering and your text has a 123 outline
> numbering.)
>
> The numbered items in a text box do not build a list, so that
> changing the level of one item will not adapt the other numbers. The
> numbering dialog for a text box seems to be the same, but the
> position concept is different.
>
> The presentation object "Outline text" has a strange mix of
> hierarchical styles, settings for numbering and bullets, but no
> "position". You need to set the position in each item individually.
> Here too the position concept is different from Writer.
>
> It is very confusing (in Writer), that with the cursor in a heading,
> assigning a list style, or using "Bullets and Numbering" from the
> context menu, or clicking on the symbols in the toolbar, do very
> different things to the heading.
>
> Kind regards Regina
>
> Heiko Tietze schrieb:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > we have many tickets regarding numbering & bullets and outlines.
> > The problem has also a high relevance in the Nantes user
> > interviews, not knowing the details though.
> >
> > Good time to think about a different solution:
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/16-6zkZl5LiICnUILhv1CfIHIdyQFyTJKp7XGST5zq5U
The proposal was made having the new area fill style dialog in mind
> > where three columns make a) the selection from pre- and
> > user-defined options simple, b) users get a full overview of all
> > settings, and c) preview shows how it looks in the end. The old
> > numbering logic is turned upside down a bit making the list styles
> > predominant as the preset. And since users may not be aware of the
> > different types, the numbering, bullets, and outline are merged
> > together.
> >
> > All comments are welcome- and we should have a design session
> > eventually.
> >
> > Cheers, Heiko

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Dr. Heiko Tietze
UX Designer
Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509


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