Re: [libreoffice-design] Numbering & Bullets

Hi Heiko,

I think there are some things, which need more than a new dialog:

There exists a lot of paragraph styles named "Numbering" and "List", but 
they have no connection to the corresponding list styles.

It is possible to set a paragraph style to an outline level and connect 
it with a list style. But the list level is not bind to the outline 
level. (You need this kind of outline heading, if you give an appendix 
an ABC outline numbering and your text has a 123 outline numbering.)

The numbered items in a text box do not build a list, so that changing 
the level of one item will not adapt the other numbers.
The numbering dialog for a text box seems to be the same, but the 
position concept is different.

The presentation object "Outline text" has a strange mix of hierarchical 
styles, settings for numbering and bullets, but no "position". You need 
to set the position in each item individually. Here too the position 
concept is different from Writer.

It is very confusing (in Writer), that with the cursor in a heading, 
assigning a list style, or using "Bullets and Numbering" from the 
context menu, or clicking on the symbols in the toolbar, do very 
different things to the heading.

Kind regards
Regina

Heiko Tietze schrieb:
> Hello all,
>
> we have many tickets regarding numbering & bullets and outlines. The
> problem has also a high relevance in the Nantes user interviews, not
> knowing the details though.
>
> Good time to think about a different solution:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16-6zkZl5LiICnUILhv1CfIHIdyQFyTJKp7XGST5zq5U
>
> The proposal was made having the new area fill style dialog in mind
> where three columns make a) the selection from pre- and user-defined
> options simple, b) users get a full overview of all settings, and c)
> preview shows how it looks in the end. The old numbering logic is
> turned upside down a bit making the list styles predominant as the
> preset. And since users may not be aware of the different types, the
> numbering, bullets, and outline are merged together.
>
> All comments are welcome- and we should have a design session eventually.
>
> Cheers,
> Heiko


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