[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-02-12

* Present: Heiko, Stuart, Samuel, Jay, Jan-Marek

* GSoC is close again

    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
        + needs to be filed in until the next Tue
        + Heiko will add the ideas there (/done)
            /done Area Fill, Table Styles, AutText, Bibliography
    + we should file in the tasks that are completed from the design point of view
        + Table styles, Customization dialog, Sidebar, ...
        + design session stuff : table of contents dialog, symbol dialog, fill dialog
          https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6qJrVIa0SAlcFV0Q2lWMmdUcW8&usp=sharing
        + redesign template manager
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JRPNdeHQpgqiqJv8LW-RHOjtHN8EMX0qK98QBnr10Yg/edit?usp=sharing
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ri2jznhcQmCtk3cVygEhwN7pi8FkbIVV_OvRQce_n6Y/edit?usp=sharing

AI: Add TOC, Special characters dialog, Templates Manager (Heiko)
          /done Templates Manager, Special Characters, ToC
          
    + Jay: add a Styles usability improvements section + list the various things to implement to 
GSoC-next ideas
        + Ahmed, Jay: Brainstorm about some nice / more styles for Calc
          https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/boards/1/topics/493
          [longer term - maybe better to add to the GSoC Styles task?]
        + Jay: Impress also needs more default object styles (only 2 are available)

* Sidebar max width (Jan-Marek)
 
    + The side bar currently has a maximum size limit
        + problem for wollmux exension (Jan-Marek)

    + in general, let's give freedom to the extension developers (Kendy)
        + we just need to make sure any random extension does not take over the entire LO :-) 
(Kendy)
AI:     + put together few screenshots to explain the needs a bit better (Jan-Marek)
        - http://snag.gy/e8550.jpg
        - http://snag.gy/Q6pvY.jpg
        - http://www.wollmux.net/wiki/WollMuxBar#Suchleiste

    + fan of the changes, just need to be careful - fixed size has some merit too (Stuart)
    + having a fixed/minimum value by default and allowing a sidebar extension dev to modify this 
value through api (Jay)
    + https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/awt/XDockableWindow.html

    + Sidebar Bug Reports (Stuart)
        The Sidebar Meta - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65138

        Sidebar "philosophy" where it needs to go - 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33223#c11

        a key feature -- multiple & detatchable decks, and support in profile state
        https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67770
        https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85905

* Update Default font

    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97577

    + Would be useful to change the default font in all apps rather than just impress (Jay)
        + Droid Sans, Serif, Mono (used on Android, available in Google Docs, available in ubuntu 
12.04 & debian 6-backports)
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droid_fonts
        + Noto Sans, Serif, Cousine (droid derivative to fully cover all scripts in unicode, 
available in ubuntu 14.04 & debian 7)
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noto_fonts
        + Caladea, Carlito (bundled with LibO, metric compatible with MS Office default fonts, 
available in ubuntu 14.04 & debian 7-backports)

* Draw-related survey (Heiko)

    + published and continued (will close on Friday, 19 February)
      https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/02/07/what-do-you-expect-from-draw/
      http://user-weave.com/survey/b0edf831f89d4d23bb3d6b6ba3e574a9?12




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