Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Experimental new LibreOffice UI

Hi Keith,

On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Keith Curtis <keithcu@gmail.com> wrote:

> ...
> > Notice that the advantages listed above don't require a ribbon-like UI
> and
> > can be accomplished using toolbars while retaining all of the advantages
> of
> > LibreOffice's current UI. Focusing on toolbars also allows a smoother
> > change and less development effort. The proposed EasyHacks are a first
> > step.
>
> You could quickly prototype any kind of toolbar or ribbon in Python.
>
> Do you have a better toolbar design? I'd update my wiki page with anything
> radically better. For this task, I suggest you not worry about what is
> doable and instead what you want.


Alright, sure. (I just don't want you to get your hopes up that this will
ever be implemented in LibreOffice. As I was told by several LibO devs, the
chances for LibO changing toolkits is basically zero to none.)

If you need a quality mockup to work from, spiceofdesign made an excellent
one on deviantart:
http://spiceofdesign.deviantart.com/art/Writer-Concept-351501580?q=gallery%3Aspiceofdesign&qo=2.
It's somewhat similar to my own vision for the UI, though I propose several
changes:
* Have the static toolbar on the same line as the contextual toolbar, as
pictured on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Writer-appmenu1.png.
This toolbar should only contain Undo, Redo, Save, and Tools items. It
should not contain New, Open, Templates, Print, or Share, as those aren't
relevant during editing. (In case this proves controversial, MS Office and
iWork also hide these in order to keep a focused workflow.)
* The mockups on
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Toolbars#Mockupsdetail
how the Tools menu could evolve.
* Each toolbar should have a Hidden Items Menu (HIM) [1] containing the
hidden commands of that toolbar (i.e. those set as "hidden" in
"Customize..."). The dialog relevant to that toolbar should be among these
commands, if it exists.
* Dragging commands from the toolbar to the HIM should hide them. Doing the
opposite should show them on the toolbar.
* Pages should be selectable. [2] Selecting a page would trigger a toolbar
with page-related commands. [3]

[1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62079
[2] https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60416
[3] https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=61080

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