Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: LibreOffice official color names

Hi Christoph,

just a short note on the names...

Christoph Noack schrieb:
> Hi Bernhard, all!
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 02.03.2011, 23:00 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
> [...]
> > > In the LibO case, I'd go for "adding Libre" - you take?
> > > (+1/-1/0)
> >
> > Therefore I vote with +1.
> >
> > But I'd prefer "LibreGreen 1" over "Libre Green 1", because without
> > the space "LibreGreen" is a name, while in "Libre Green" libre can
> > be understood as descriptive adjective.
>
> True, but removing the whitespace makes it less readable ...

I don't think this is an important issue, as it should be a descriptive 
name rather than a color accompanied by a leading adjective and a 
following number.

We decided to call our product LibreOffice, even if Google finds more 
"Libre Office" than "LibreOffice", this seems to be quite similar. I 
think it is inconsistent and a neglected marketing chance, if we add a 
space between "Libre" and the color.

But I'm not an UX-expert, so I have to believe you that people will not 
be able to understand LibreGreen as easy as Libre Green.

> originally, we had this kind of naming, but since we added more
> colors, it became an issue to me - when I've created the palettes for
> LibreOffice and Inkscape.
> http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/10/united-colors-of-liberty.html

Looking at these colors, I find out, that I like the previous color 
names better than the present ones:

Orange is not really orange - Marron has been more exact.

Yellow is not yellow at all - Ocher might be the right description.
> > To be consistent, we should use "LibreGreen Accent" instead of
> > "Green Accent" - OpenGrok shows the latter.
>
> OpenGrok is okay, since I asked for that name when it got integrated
> ;-)

But the other colors seems to have been integrated with "Libre" - did 
you do this on purpose?

http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/extras/extras/source/palettes/libreoffice.soc

The Inkscape palette I use doesn't contain any "Libre", so they are 
different.

But in future all the palettes (LibO, Inkscape, GIMP) will use the same 
naming... :-)
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > 2. The gray shades are missing in the table - these are not
> > > necessarily part of the official branding palette, but very
> > > helpful when working on documents (rationale: changing palettes
> > > in LibO is still time consuming, so the basic colors should be
> > > included).
> >
> > I think we should define two grey values as "LibreGrey" (or
> > "LibreGray"). One should be the grey tone of the lighter part in
> > the greyscale logo. As it is the equivalent to "LibreGreen" (as
> > official LibO color "LibreGreen 1" might be called this way IMHO),
> > I'd call it "LibreGrey 1".
>
> The name "Green 1" has some historic reasons, since - originally -
> it was the darkest green. The "Green 0" was some mysterious
> workaround to keep the name, since it already had been used
> extensively. Thus, the number marks the "intensity" of the color.
>
> To provide additional information, I've used the "Comment" section
> in the spreadsheet table. If you look at the Inkscape palette, hover
> the "LibreGreen 1" item and Inkscape will show "LibreGreen 1
> (LibreOffice Main Color)".

Here it shows "Green 1 (LibreOffice Main Color)".

We should use this feature for the official grey too.
> So for such kind of information, I propose to keep this kind of
> naming scheme.[...]
>
> > If we include the basic colors in the palette, more grey values are
> > as important as the main colors.
>
> True, that's what I've suggested - the LibreOffice color palette
> available in the wiki does feature all these gray values; equally to
> the Inkscape palette.

I've been wondering, if we should add plain colors (red, green, blue, 
yellow, orange, violet) to the LibO palette too, because they might be 
used for marking etc. We don't have red at all...

But on the other hand they don't fit with the LibreOffice colors, so I'd 
avoid such a mixture.

What do you think?

> I'll add the source code at the end of the mail
> - for easier reference.
> [...]

I don't know if a break is allowed in an .soc file, if so, I'd add one 
behind the first entry: This would lead to better readability, as every 
definition is shown in it's own line.

And didn't you vote for adding "Libre"? (Even if you want to keep it as 
single word...)

If we agree on the dark grey , I'd like to add "(LibreOffice Color)" or 
"LibreGrey 1" (or something similar) to the name.

And one more point:

While the default UI language is "English (USA)" the standard color 
palette as well as your proposal use the British English spelling "Gray" 
instead of "Grey".

Best regards

Bernhard



> === LibreOffice_Initial-Branding-Colors.soc ===
>
> <ooo:color-table> <draw:color draw:name="Black"
> draw:color="#000000"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 90%"
> draw:color="#1A1A1A"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 80%"
> draw:color="#333333"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 70%"
> draw:color="#4D4D4D"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 60%"
> draw:color="#666666"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 50%"
> draw:color="#808080"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 40%"
> draw:color="#999999"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 30%"
> draw:color="#B3B3B3"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 20%"
> draw:color="#CCCCCC"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 10%"
> draw:color="#E6E6E6"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 5%"
> draw:color="#F2F2F2"/> <draw:color draw:name="White"
> draw:color="#FFFFFF"/> <draw:color draw:name="Green 0"
> draw:color="#106802"/> <draw:color draw:name="Green 1 (LibreOffice
> Main Color)" draw:color="#18A303"/> <draw:color draw:name="Green 2"
> draw:color="#43C330"/> <draw:color draw:name="Green 3"
> draw:color="#92E285"/> <draw:color draw:name="Green 4"
> draw:color="#CCF4C6"/> <draw:color draw:name="Blue 0"
> draw:color="#023F62"/> <draw:color draw:name="Blue 1"
> draw:color="#0369A3"/> <draw:color draw:name="Blue 2"
> draw:color="#1C99E0"/> <draw:color draw:name="Blue 3"
> draw:color="#63BBEE"/> <draw:color draw:name="Blue 4"
> draw:color="#AADCF7"/> <draw:color draw:name="Orange 0"
> draw:color="#622502"/> <draw:color draw:name="Orange 1"
> draw:color="#A33E03"/> <draw:color draw:name="Orange 2"
> draw:color="#D36118"/> <draw:color draw:name="Orange 3"
> draw:color="#F09E6F"/> <draw:color draw:name="Orange 4"
> draw:color="#F9CFB5"/> <draw:color draw:name="Purple 0"
> draw:color="#530260"/> <draw:color draw:name="Purple 1"
> draw:color="#8E03A3"/> <draw:color draw:name="Purple 2"
> draw:color="#C254D2"/> <draw:color draw:name="Purple 3"
> draw:color="#DC85E9"/> <draw:color draw:name="Purple 4"
> draw:color="#F2CBF8"/> <draw:color draw:name="Yellow 0"
> draw:color="#876900"/> <draw:color draw:name="Yellow 1"
> draw:color="#C99C00"/> <draw:color draw:name="Yellow 2"
> draw:color="#E9B913"/> <draw:color draw:name="Yellow 3"
> draw:color="#F5CE53"/> <draw:color draw:name="Yellow 4"
> draw:color="#FDE9A9"/> <draw:color draw:name="Green Accent"
> draw:color="#2CEE0E"/> <draw:color draw:name="Blue Accent"
> draw:color="#00A0FC"/> <draw:color draw:name="Orange Accent"
> draw:color="#FC5C00"/> <draw:color draw:name="Purple Accent"
> draw:color="#E327FF"/> <draw:color draw:name="Yellow Accent"
> draw:color="#FFD74C"/> </ooo:color-table>


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