Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] MacOS: When arrowing up and down, not every new line or paragraph is spoken by VoiceOver

Hi Marco,

On 2025-01-21 14:17, Marco Zehe wrote:
> The worst experience is that of an imported .docx document. That basically has this problem from 
> the start.
>
> An .odt document that was created by someone else or some software like an EtherPad, reads fine, 
> all text is in the first multiline text field accessible. If I add to that document, each new 
> paragraph gets its own text accessible object, and that also remains so after saving, closing, and 
> reopening. As if LibreOffice differentiates between what was originally there and what was added by 
> the user in this application.
>
> If I start with a fresh .odt document, each paragraph gets its own accessible, but at least things 
> read mostly consistently.
>
> If someone wants to look at sample documents, I have nonsensical content that I can share 
> privately, don’t want to bother the list.

I haven't seen the behavior you describe with Orca on Linux or recent 
NVDA versions on Windows, but I was sent a sample document that shows 
behavior similar to what you describe with JAWS on Windows.

I didn't get to look into it too much yet, but from what I've seen so 
far, there's some inconsistency in Writer's a11y implementation related 
to off-creen content and when information gets queried via relations 
(flows-from/flows-to).

What you're experiencing on macOS might be the same underlying issue.

If you have sample documents, it would be great if you could attach them 
to a new bug report in Bugzilla or (in particular if you only have 
documents that can't be attached to a public bug tracker) send them to 
me directly.

Michael

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