Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Inserting comments with a screen reader.

On 11/02/2024 02:14, V Stuart Foote wrote:
> On 2024-02-10 10:30, Robert Kingett wrote:
> > I am running the 2024.2 version of LibreOffice, on Windows 11, the 
> > latest version, and using the free and open source screen reader 
> > NVDA. When I press the key command to insert a comment in a Writer 
> > document, control Alt M, a pane opens but when I press F6 and 
> > navigate to the pane, that's when I have an extremely hard time 
> > finding that edit field. Could someone give me a bit more guidance on 
> > how to actually open the comments edit box or at least provide me 
> > with a layout as to what is in that pane so I know how to navigate it 
> > better?
>
> The shortcut to open a new comment is Control + Alt + C
>
> Alternative to create new comment is to use the main menu via F10,  
> then enter I, then enter N as accelerator. The specific key for 
> accelerator can/will change depending on locale.  The shortcut Control 
> + Alt + C should be stable.
>
> When you open the Comment dialog, you already are in its edit field. 
> After entering content, an Escape key will return edit cursor focus to 
> the document canvas.
>
> However, once comment is present on document canvas, there is limited 
> keyboard navigation via document canvas. An F6 sequence will take 
> cursor focus out of the document. Not into the comment objects.
>
> So instead, the Sidebar provides the Navigator deck, where Comments 
> can be efficiently reviewed.  Use the Alt key + number 4 shortcut to 
> land on the Navigator SB deck. Alternative is to launch an undocked 
> Navigator using the F5 key. Slightly different behavior between the 
> floating F5 navigator and the sidebar deck via Alt key + number 4 
> (don't use the numpad 4).
>
> Once focused on the Navigator deck, simple TAB or Shift TAB will move 
> between blocks of controls, while Cursor up or down will advance 
> through items.
>
> If you get lost, F10 will always take you back to main menu. And F6 or 
> shift F6 moves between major UI elements.   The Alt + number 4 will 
> take you to the sidebar Navigator deck or F5 will toggle the floating 
> navigator open or closed.
>
> The navigator has many movement modes, the one you want is listed as 
> Navigate by comments.  But there are many other things you could 
> navigate the document by. For example bookmarks, pages, frames 
> depending on what is present in the document.  Be sure of which 
> selection is made in the navigate by list box.
>
> Give that a try for manipulating Comments
>
> Please ask if you have specific issues
Thanks for the response, Stuart.

Another useful shortcut is Ctrl + Alt + Pg Up or Down to jump from one 
comment to another.

I'll add two relevant tickets regarding the currently limited 
accessibility of Writer comments:

 * Allow editing comments using the keyboard:
   https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102054
 * Comment text not interacted with by screen readers:
   https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92389

Cheers

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