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RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Calc and Accessibility


Niklas,
Thanks for your message, as well as for your work in trying to improve Calc's accessibility.  I 
added a comment in bug 81112; I'm not certain if it will prove helpful or if it hasn't told you 
anything you don't already know.  While I'm not a mouse user, I tried using f2 to edit a cell and 
then to press escape to return to the worksheet.  However, NVDA is still not reading the cell data 
or coordinates as I use arrow keys to move through the spreadsheet.
As you continue to work on this issue, I am at your service if you're looking for users to test new 
builds.


-----Original Message-----
From: Niklas Johansson [mailto:sleeping.pillow@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:35 AM
To: David Goldfield; accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Calc and Accessibility

Hi
Two things, first:
I noticed that after I enter a cells edit mode by double clicking the mouse and then escape, I 
actually get reports of cell coordinates and cell values when I use the arrow keys. I don't now 
exactly what gets initialized when I double click on a cell but I'll keep digging.

Secondly:
I did a patch for the problem with zero being announced and it has been pushed to master. It would 
be nice if somebody could verify that it actually works especially if you could test with another 
Windows screen reader than NVDA. Note that this is only pushed to master at this point. 
You can download and try out the patch here:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@51-TDF/current/master~2014-10-19_01.56.13_LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Win_x86_en-US_de_ar_ja_qtz.msi

The focus issue is still not fixed so you need to use the workaround to double click a cell and 
pressing the escape button to get announcements. 
But after that you should be able to test that cell content other than numerical values are 
presented correctly.

Let's keep our fingers crossed that we can nail this focus issue soon.

Regards,
Niklas Johansson

David Goldfield skrev 2014-10-15 14:28:
Hi.  While pressing the f2 key in Calc does provide cell coordinates, pressing escape to return 
to the worksheet does not allow arrow keys to announce any cell info.  What is odd, if this will 
be of any help, is that OpenOffice works perfectly in NVDA.
I can also tell you that it is important that NVDA users enable the "report table cell 
coordinates" checkbox in the NVDA document settings checkbox.


-----Original Message-----
From: Niklas Johansson [mailto:sleeping.pillow@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:52 AM
To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Calc and Accessibility

V Stuart Foote skrev 2014-10-14 19:44:
Also when cells are empty NVDA sounds a Zero rather than blank--that is an NVDA issue.
Hm... I'm not so sure it is a bug in NVDA. I'd rather think that it is an issue in LibreOffice. 
It also seems related to the issue with only values being announced. I believe that a big part of 
the issue lies within the fact that the IA2 code from OpenOffice abuses the IAccessibleValue 
interface (that should only return numerical values) by returning string values as well. It also 
goes against OpenOffice/LibreOffice api (XAccessibleValue) which probably was "fixed"
on integration into LibreOffice leaving us in this unfortunate state of non working accessibility 
in Calc on Windows.

Regards,
Niklas Johansson



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