Re: [gl-discuss] Fwd: [libreoffice-website] Askbot for LibreOffice in your language

Anton Meixome <meixome -AT- certima.net>
Sat, 5 Oct 2013 18:17:23 +0200

2013/10/5 Leandro Regueiro <leandro.regueiro@gmail.com>:

On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:45 PM, mariosv <mariosv@miguelangel.mobi> wrote:

El 03/10/13 11:36, Anton Meixome [via Document Foundation Mail Archive]
escribió:

Askboot galego para LibO

Creo que este tema é propio da discusión en comunidade. Non só se
resultaría práctico ou viable o mantemento dunha comunidade Askboot en
galego para LibreOffice senón quen se ofrece (como mínimo 1 persoa
durante un par de anos), e polo menos un par de persoas que se
"comprometan" a responder cuestións e "animar" a participación.

Por certo, a tradución do Askboot en galego está ao 100%, feita por
este servidor.
https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/askbot/language/gl/

Eu creo que hai que valorar precisamente o feito de termos servizos
infrautilizados. Non dan boa imaxe.

Hai outros sectores da comunidade que necesitan moita máis
participación como a tradución dos manuais, o wiki, e a tradución da
Axuda que non atopan suficiente xente para avanzar substancialmente.
Ora se preferides este ooutro tipo de actividade entón pídese

Antón




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Hi Community (cross-posting on purpose)

We are in position to deploy AskBot for LibreOffice (AB4LO) in many
languages.

Those individuals interested to moderate the Askbot for LibreOffice in
his own language are invited to step forward.

(We will not deploy an AB4LO instance without at least one moderator.)

My experience as moderator for AB4LO in pt-BR is less than 5 minutes
/day, and the rate of new questions is about 2 new question/days and 2
new answers/day. Your mileage may vary, depending on how active is your
national/language community. As example, you can check the pt-BR site at

http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br/questions/

Note: I had to complete the translation of the AB4LO web interface
myself. I had to get a login in transifex and finish the job. Other
languages are in incomplete state too. The list of available languages
is at this link:

https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/askbot/

You may coordinate with your translator to get it completed.

Why AskBot ?

* There were several demands to deploy means of community
intercommunication other than mailing list.

* To get help thru mailing list, the process is to subscribe/confirm
subscription/write mail to ask/wait response/get flood of unwanted other
messages/unsubscribe/confirm unsubscription. This is too much 1990'ish.

* AB4LO allows you to quickly ask for help, and get responses from your
community. Unlike forums, AB4LO is aimed to establish a knowledge base
on LibreOffice in your language and provides tools to search for a given
subject quickly.

* AB4LO is not suited to debates and discussions. Prefer the mailing
lists for that purpose.

* Askbot also allows you to login thru your OpenId credentials, such as
Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc... Chances are that your users will use
it frequently.

* You also don't get e-mails unless you ask for in your profile.

*My experience with AB4LO in pt-BR*

As I said, I get 5 minute work as moderator. Most of the job is to edit
the question and put in a format of a question seeking answers. I also
narrow the tags for a better search. Sometimes people put Basic code in
the details and I care to have it well rendered with the internal AB4LO
editor tool.

I had to close some questions on subjects unrelated to LibreOffice.
Almost no spam so far.

Some answers had to be demoted to comment and some comments had to be
promoted to answer.

The kind of questions asked has a good indication on the difficulties
users have with LO and tells a lot about the user and the community.

As moderator, you are not obliged to answers users questions.

We strongly advertize Askbot for LibreOffice in many of our local
communications.

So, what are you waiting for? Get AB4LO now!!!

Kind regards

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Boas noites,

pola banda das respostas, xa hai un. :)
pola de animar, deixade ver.

No canto da moderación si non xurde ningún mais, poderíase intentar,
esperando que co tempo a comunidade medre e poda haber mais voluntarios.

Saúdos.
Miguel Ángel.


Ola,
non sei como funcionaría o servizo este, se avisan por correo
electrónico de novas dúbidas ou mensaxes entón pode que axude.


Creo que avisa por correo se estás subscrito a unha categoría ou a
algunha consulta en particular

Se non

é así non creo que me lembre de estar sempre ao tanto de se alguén
apareceu cunha dúbida. Ademais non son un experto en LibreOffice. En
todo caso este tipo de servizos son para que a xente se axude entre
sí, non para que un experto (ou grupo de expertos) reparta sabiduría,
polo tanto creo que pode ser boa idea activar o servizo.


Para repartir sabiduría están os manuais, os cursos, etc. Isto é un
servizo de preguntas e respostas pero como todos sabemos se non hai
unha certa masa crítica detras dunha plataforma de participación,
simplemente non funcionará, como sabemos pola experiencia de
Trasno.net e outras plataformas anteriores. No caso galego é o que
pasaría. Creo que só funcionaría, polo menos medianamente, un sistema
deste tipo se fose de amplo espectro: LibreOffice, Inkscape,
Thunderbird, Ubuntu, etc... que estivese garantido que se mantivese no
tempo e que fose promocionado entre o público regularmente e por un
grupo heteroxéneo de promotores (Guls, medios de comunicación como
código cero, universidades, entidades de formación, etc. Non sei se me
explico. Ten que ter un grupo promotor durante polo menos 2 anos que
garantan contidos e respostas regulares (o karma -sabiduría- e esas
cuestións danas os usuarios, non os xestores... a quen lle preocupen
esas cousas)

Penso que debería motarse a outro nivel e, de feito, parece que está
en marcha unha iniciativa universitaria sobre iso pero seguro que non
funcionará se non participan os grupos de usuarios, asociacións, etc.
Este tipo de servizos de asistencia entre os usuarios téñenos os
grandes proxectos como Debian, Ubuntu... pois non hai ningún con
versión en galego. Pensádeo.

Solicitar unha instancia en galego do Ask da Document Foundation ten
tamén a súa faceta de responsabilidade sobre o mantemento da
infraestrutura e a xestión do servizo. Non é nada sinxelo de instalar
e manter como recoñece a propia TDF.

Pero xa digo, que máis quixera eu que ter aquí a tres persoas que
queiran manter e alimentar este servizo para LibreOffice. Nin o vexo
en español, francés ou catalán...

http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br/questions/

Un saúdo,

Antón


Deica

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Context

Re: [gl-discuss] Fwd: [libreoffice-website] Askbot for LibreOffice in your language · mariosv
- Re: [gl-discuss] Fwd: [libreoffice-website] Askbot for LibreOffice in your language · Leandro Regueiro
  - Re: [gl-discuss] Fwd: [libreoffice-website] Askbot for LibreOffice in your language · Anton Meixome

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