Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc suggestion

Hi Joel
Thank you for using your time to explain the workflow and "philosophy" 
of this project. I have learned a lot :-) .
I know that LibreOffice depends on volunteers. (I am just one of the 
many translators using some spare time to get LibreOffice available all 
over the world in peoples own languages).
The first spreadsheets had only a few functions and workarounds was a 
necessity in almost every spreadsheet, so I am used to write 
workarounds. I was filing my suggestion because I do not have any others 
to ask whether this function would be useful to others or not.
So again, thank you for answering.
Kolbjørn


Den 26.06.2016 22:14, Joel Madero skreiv:
> Hi Kolbjørn,
>
> I just want to make sure expectations here are realistic (I believe I 
> was one who commented on the bug). Our project works by the "doers 
> deciding" - so even if 100 users say they'd like the feature, *at 
> most* this would result in the enhancement going to NEW as a valid 
> enhancement request and then *very likely* would sit there for a long 
> time (until a developer with the skills required *volunteered* to 
> implement it.
>
> I've pointed out a couple issues with adding entirely new functions:
>
> 1) We (The Document Foundation) does not control ods standards, I 
> suggested to you that you poke them to see if they're at all 
> interested in adding a new standards;
>
> 2) When there is currently a workable formula (even if requiring some 
> nested functions) - the reason is that there are almost infinite 
> combinations of nested functions that people use - if we start taking 
> enhancements based on "well one function could replace this 
> x(y(z(#,#))) function" than we almost have no limit. I could almost 
> immediately file probably two dozen such requests.
>
> Again, just trying to keep things realistic. Best case is that this 
> goes to "NEW" just as a "fine it's a valid enhancement" but then it'll 
> almost definitely sit there (possibly indefinitely).
>
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> On 6/26/2016 12:01 PM, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote:
> > I asked for this as an enhancement. (Bug125848 
> > <http://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=125848>).
> > It looks like the developers has plenty to do adding functions to be 
> > compatible with other spreadsheets (read: Excel?). So most likely it 
> > will be marked WONTFIX.
> >  I just asked for this function because
> > 1) I needed it (instead of using workarounds), and
> > 2) it would be nice if Calc sometimes was ahead of Excel.
> > But, as I said, if I am the only one in need for such function(s), it 
> > is undesirable to waste time on it.
> >
> > Kolbjørn
> >
> >
> > *
> > *Den 20.06.2016 21:54, Kolbjørn Stuestøl skreiv:
> > > I have not found an active forum for developers so I am trying this 
> > > forum. Perhaps someone know where to post it?
> > >
> > > I would like to have a function who finds the first or last 
> > > occurrence of an item in a cell area.
> > > Something like
> > >
> > >    FIND.FIRST(B1:C20,A1) and FIND.LAST(B1:C20,A1)
> > >
> > > where A1 contains the needle (what should be found), C1:C20 the 
> > > search area (the heystack) and if found in C1:C20 returns the value 
> > > of the corresponding row from B1:B20.
> > >
> > > Also FIND.FIRST(B1:B20,A1) where the returned value is the address 
> > > to the actual cell in B1:B20 will do.
> > >
> > > A1 could contain a number value or something like "<5" to find the 
> > > first occurrence of a number less than 5. Including text would be top.
> > >
> > > What could this function be used for?
> > > If I for example are running a shop opening at 7 in the morning with 
> > > a few employers. (I assume the cash register is connected to Calc). 
> > > What time of the day is the first sale? If I never sell anything 
> > > before 10 o'clock, I could save some wages, and consider sleeping 3 
> > > hours more in the morning. :-)
> > > Or I could find out what day was the first rainy day in June or the 
> > > first frosty day in the autumn the latest 20 years, or when my 
> > > wildlife cameras first recognized an elk.
> > >
> > > I have not found this function in other spreadsheets, so perhaps 
> > > Calc will be the first one?
> > >
> > > I am now using a walk around, so I am not asking for how to do this 
> > > calculations. I am only asking for a function to do this in a 
> > > simpler way.
> > >
> > > Kolbjørn Stuestøl
>
>
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