Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

Another thing I noticed about the writer2epub extension. When I first 
downloaded it, it would not properly install into my LO 3.6.7. I then 
uninstalled my AOO 3.4.1 and AOO 4.0. The writer2epub extension then 
installed into LO.

It appears (as others have alluded) that LO and AOO have some conflicts when 
installed side by side on the same machine (registry perhaps which is beyond 
my knowledge). Since I'm finding that LO is progressing better than AOO, I'm 
happy to commit to just one of the suites.

Virgil



-----Original Message----- 
From: Virgil Arrington
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:58 PM
To: Tom Davies
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

I just redid the Writer2epub test with my theology paper after applying
default LO styles. It worked a *lot* better. I really liked the way it
handled the default "Text Body" style by not indenting the first paragraph
after a heading and then indenting subsequent paragraphs. That is excellent
typography (a standard in LaTeX) and often missing in EPUB files. However,
it still ignored my attempt to apply outline numbering to the default
Heading styles. But, it did recognize the heading styles for my table of
contents and navigation keys on my Kindle.

As you allude, this is a good tool as long as you understand what it will,
and will not, do. Work within its parameters and you'll like the result. Try
to make it work *your* way, and it will disappoint.

Virgil

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Davies
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:41 PM
To: Virgil Arrington
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

Hi :)
That sounds a lot like LaTeX being best if you stick with their defaults so
it kinda makes sense to me.  I think the Docs Team (i think mostly Dan &
Jean wasn't it?) experimented with a few ways of getting ePubs from the
guides and they might have useful ideas about it even though it's years
later already.
Regards from
Tom :)





> ________________________________
> From: Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>
> To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>; e-letter <inpost@gmail.com>
> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 19:22
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
> I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting
> the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried
> doing the same with just the 18 page introduction. Same result. No EPUB
> output file was generated.
>
> I noticed that Writer2epub doesn't like custom styles. It is apparently
> designed for fairly simple documents, using LO's built-in styles. It can't
> handle the elaborate formatting of the LO User Guides.
>
> I then tried it using a theology paper I wrote a few years ago. I have
> several outline numbered styles, which again, Writer2epub doesn't translate
> well.
>
> I think Writer2epub will work best with a document that is designed from 
> the
> beginning for EPUB, but if you want to translate an existing document, you
> may need to do considerable work to make it ready for the extension.
>
> These are just my observations after a half-hour experiment.
>
> Virgil
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Tom Davies
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:46 AM
> To: Virgil Arrington ; e-letter
> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
> Hi :)
> Sorry, got distracted.  Here's a link
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>
> > To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>; e-letter <inpost@gmail.com>
> > Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 14:11
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
> >
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > Do you have a link to one of the guides? I may have a go at trying
> > different
> > ways of converting one to EPUB just to see how it works. Might be kind of
> > fun.
> >
> > Virgil
> >
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Tom Davies
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:31 AM
> > To: e-letter ; Virgil Arrington
> > Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
> >
> > Hi :)
> > Has anyone successfully tried this to get ePub versions of something 
> > fairly
> > hefty such as our Published Guides?  I think it would be great if we could
> > get all those guides done as ePub wouldn't it?  Anyone able to give it a
> > go?
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: e-letter <inpost@gmail.com>
> > > To: Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>
> > > Cc: rost52 <bugquestcontri@online.de>; users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:56
> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/07/2013, Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > That works just fine. For my tastes, however, it's not quite as smooth 
> > > > a
> > > > process or polished a result as with LyX/LaTeX.
> > >
> > > Agree, for PDF, but it seems that the future of viewing content is in
> > > digital format via mobile devices. So for archiving to paper, LaTeX
> > > wins and maybe epub for electronic archives.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rost52
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:00 PM
> > > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
> > > >
> > > > "As a proud papa..." I would open the document in Writer, select all 
> > > > and
> > > > set
> > > >
> > > > styles to Default. Then
> > > > create the styles I wanted and reformat the whole document.
> > >
> > > By coincidence there has been a guide published to write epub
> > > documents using LO:
> > > http://opensource.com/life/13/8/how-create-ebook-open-source-way
> > >
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