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Be wary about using it tho because there is no way you could return to Outlook, ThunderBird or such-like after getting used to it.
[unquote]
I was wondering what you mean by this? I know that TB will run the email files from the Outlook Express folder. Did that before and just needed to locate the OE email folders and point TB to default to that folder[s]. Had to do that for a friend with a Win2000 system.

Now, if you mean you would not want to go back to Outlook [or Express if your system still uses it], I say I would not want to. Thunderbird works better for my needs. Sure, you had to get use to the way it does things over the Microsoft way, but what else it new.

For whatever reason Ubuntu insists that I use Evolution, if I click on an email link in Firefox, and tries to get me to set it up. I do not know why this is since I have TB as my default email client.

Never heard of Claws or Bat before. Been using Thunderbird for 5-7 years now and do not want to give it up.

On 09/07/2011 10:44 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
For an email client i would probably recommend a non-OpenSource but still free
(i think) program called "The Bat".


For my own requirements ThunderBird or Claws are fine.  Claws is much smaller
and lighter-weight so it might be faster but maybe has less functionality.
Going the other way, Evolution mostly seems fine.   "The Bat" is an extremely
sophisticated email client for Windows.  Apparently it does work in Wine, if you
are on Gnu&Linux or Mac (or possibly on Bsd?).  There are probably other
email-clients that are also good but i think it's something where you might have
to look outside of OpenSource at the moment.  Be wary about using it tho because
there is no way you could return to Outlook, ThunderBird or such-like after
getting used to it.

Regards from
Tom :)




________________________________
From: Bruce Carlson<bruce@grahamgroup.com.au>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 7 September, 2011 5:41:39
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Can Libre Office be installed on an external
drive. ?



-----Original Message-----
From: planas [mailto:jslozier@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2011 2:22 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Can Libre Office be installed on an external
drive. ?

On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 12:28 +1000, Bruce Carlson wrote:

HI,

I agree with Tom.
It is difficult to get IT people who have never worked with anything other than
MS products to accept that there is a better alternative, especially younger IT
staff. Older IT workers have mostly had experience with Unix based operating
systems, word processors, spread sheet and drawing / presentation applications
long before MS even existed so are aware that better alternatives do exist.
However in my organisation I have been successful in getting almost everyone
including young IT MS orientated staff to use Firefox as their preferred browser
and I now have a small following of execs and senior staff who prefer to use
Libre Office because of it's greater functionality and ease of use but because
of company policy, must also have MS office installed on their machines.
The long term goal is to demonstrate to the senior management the false economy
of making everyone install MS office as this is an expense the company can do
without.
Except for development environments, I personally have only one MS application
running on my work machines and that is Outlook.

Keep demonstrating the advantages of these alternatives and you will win
through in the end. Little by little.

planas wrote
An possible replacement for Outlook might be Thunderbird.

 From Bruce,

Hi Planas, and others,

I used to use thunderbird for my personal email client but had some problems and
switched to Evolution but I am currently having another look into the new
thunderbird and so far I'm excited about what I've seen.

I know this is really nothing to do with LO but the two go hand in hand and
gaining acceptance of one helps lead to acceptance of the other.

All good advice. Thanks, Planas


Bruce Carlson

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2011 10:14 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Can Libre Office be installed on an external
drive. ?

Hi :)
It might be worth contacting the IT Staff that are going to install the systems
and make the point that your work requires using specialist software or
something or that you prefer using Firefox because it's safer and faster than
Internet Explorer and you feel the same way about Office.



It takes a lot of luck to find the right angle but it would be great if you
could get Firefox and LibreOffice installed alongside whatever they are told  to
force you to use.  Firefox has built a strong reputation for being low-maintance
and popular so the IT guys might be happy to let you install that and then
LibreOffice is "similar" but just not as famous yet.  Perhaps other people at
work might be happy to join in kicking up a fuss about getting Firefox on their
machines too.



You might like this article
http://www.computerworld.dk/art/118467/
or translated to English ...
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&layo
ut=2&eotf=1&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerworld.dk%2Fart%2F11
8467%2F>

There are other articles on
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_In_The_Press
but it's not very comprehensive or up-to-date.  There are just tooo many
articles out there so it's better to use a search engine if you want to find
articles.


Regards from
Tom :)



________________________________
From: Don Parris<parrisdc@gmail.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 6 September, 2011 23:23:28
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Can Libre Office be installed on an external
drive. ?

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 22:01, Tom Davies<tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>  wrote:

Hi :)
I think you are looking for
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable/
but it only works on Windows machines.

On linux machines you will probably find that LibreOffice is already
installed although some have stayed with OpenOffice.  You are more
likely to be allowed to install LibreOffice directly onto a
Gnu&Linux machine if it doesn't already have it.  You do soemtimes
find kiosk machines that wont let you install anything but generally
multi-user Gnu&Linux machines have much less need to be locked-down
than Windows machines so you should be able to install LibreOffice
reasonably easily.



Thanks for that, Tom.  I actually have a situation in which this is going to be
useful.  I have been exploring some of the other portable apps as well.
My workplace is going to soon roll out new systems, and I understand they are
being locked down in terms of what can be installed on them.  I have had OOo/LO
on my box for several years, and know that they are talking about not allowing
other programs to be installed beyond what they specify.

While I understand their concerns, I absolutely find working with MS Office to
be mostly just awful.  OK, Excel is not bad, but Word, well... I just can't take
it.  Anyway, Portable Apps gives me the ability to use LO without having to
install it.  There is also the portable VirtuaWin, which lets me have my virtual
desktops in their Windows environment.

The bottom line?  I feel much more at home at work now.  :-)


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