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On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 15:31, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
HI :)

Hi :)

Snips are good.  Staying relevant is important :)

I think rtf is inferior to odt.  The newer versions of MicroSquish Office (2007
& 2010) can both read "odt" now and odt is the one worth promoting most strongly
surely?

Yes and no. Look at it from two ways, yes in MS you may be able to
read in .odt but it would same as 'using an elephant to kill an ant'
or something like that. Ironically something similar was the basis of
Openoffice.org when they started long time back.

I am looking at the biggest base and the simplest format which can be
read by as many text-editors as can be read. The .rtf format achieves
that.

If I was a small device manufacturer then also .rtf would fit the
bill. There was talk of an odf-viewer but it was highly broken the
last time I saw it ~ over 2 years ago. So just because Microsoft is
playing ball doesn't mean its good or bad. I hope you are getting my
point.

Also I don't want to be in a place to push or give a single
alternative format, that's the reason we landed on the whole
openoffice.org in the first place.

I can hopefully send some documents tomorrow (Thursday) when i work on the
http://www.cecf.co.uk
website.  Something with pictures but no macros and in various formats?  Short 1
or 2 page documents or long, research articles?

I don't know if .rtf can read macros or not. If yes, that's also
great, honestly haven't seen that. The 1 or 2 pages long is good, but
better would be probably a spreadsheet, pictures or whatever good
combos think of. I don't know if Libreoffice has a sort of community
place where user-generated content could be put up. If there is such a
place, it would be good if you put it up there and just give me the
links, this way everybody gets a chance to also use that.

Would documents need to have been done through LibreOffice?  I am still using an
older version of OpenOffice (still has the Sun logo) at the moment.  I am just
waiting for the .deb to reach the Ubuntu repos or at least be easy to install.

I don't know which version of Ubuntu you are using, I had installed it
on Ubuntu 10.10 the last time I had access to a Ubuntu 10.10 release.
Couple of places which give you how you can do it.

http://www.mydailytechtips.com/2010/10/how-to-install-libreoffice-in-ubuntu.html

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-libreoffice-in-ubuntu-using-deb-packages.html

The latter is the way I did it in Debian and apart from having
openoffice.org shortcut in the menus everything else works fine.

Although doing it with libreoffice would be better, then we could also
check the implementation of that, see how the .rtf gets structured and
stuff like that.

It should be fun. I would have done the same but frankly I'm not a
document guy and don't have the skills to make good-looking documents.

Many regards from
Tom :)

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