Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Impact of Mozilla's decision regarding Thunderbird on LibreOffice and need to act?

["Charles-H. Schulz" <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>]

Hello Dave,

It's one thing to advocate, and another thing to find a sustainable stream
of developers who can develop TB or any other email client.
Anyway, this being said, it seems that the Mozilla Foundation is explaining
a different story about TB . Check this :
http://blog.mozilla.org/beyond-the-code/2012/07/09/about-the-future-of-thunderbird/

What this means is that TB is not going away. The community can contribute
to it, and I think that's what supposed to happen. I'm also convinced
there's some real business opportunity around it, so I'm not all too
worried about it.

Best,

Charles.


2012/7/15 Dave Johnson <davefilms.us@gmail.com>

> I agree... TB is a need for LO. Not a want. To effectively compete in the
> market we (LO / TDF) must have an  integrated PIM. I have been advocating
> this in the past.
> On Jul 15, 2012 6:20 AM, "Gerry T." <gerry.treppel@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Charles,
> >
> > thank you very much for your reply.
> >
> >  [...] I am not sure I agree with your thesis. I would point out that in
> >> most
> >> organization it's the email / groupware server (Exchange/Lotus) that's
> >> the primary barrier, not the mail client.
> >> If I'm not mistaken Thunderbird or Mozilla do not distribute such
> >> groupware server.
> >>
> > Thundbird/Lightning as client programmes is in this regard similar
> > situation like LibreOffice, Yes, Mozilla does not provide a groupware
> > server, but - with some quirks - TB can communicate with those (e.g.
> > Exchange).
> > I think, you are right for big organisations or companies, but for the
> > small and medium size organisations/companies the email/PIM client is
> > central (e.g. our institute (university) with roughly 100 staff is based
> on
> > IMAP-Server, shared calendar, shared adress book, shared storage). For
> this
> > big target group of organisations/companies, there is basically the
> > decision between MS Outlook and Thunderbird/Lightning. And if Outlook is
> > chosen, the Office suite is MS Office.
> >
> >> [...] But to come back to your suggestion, I think that while the
> >> development
> >> or distribution of a mail client alongside LibreOffice might be worth
> >> thinking about *if the appropriate resources* are available, the notion
> >> that the Document Foundation would "take over" the development of
> >> Thunderbird is impractical, and will not become real in any way.
> >>
> > What I am proposing is not to take over the development in any way, my
> > suggestion is more in the way of signalling to Mozilla.org that
> > TB/Lightning are also very important projects for the future success of
> > LibreOffice. And maybe in the direction of promoting the other
> > project/product to be the best complement to the own software
> (LibreOffice
> > + TB/Lightning = full office suite).
> > There are, of course, also interesting features, where the teams could
> > cooperate, e.g. the ability to view ODF files directly in Thunderbird. Or
> > to edit ODF files with LibreOffice from within TB without the hazzle of
> > saving_from_email -> editing_in_LO -> saving_in_LO _>
> attach_again_to_email.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Gerry
> >
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