RE: [libreoffice-documentation] Base guide structure (TOC)

[Lailah <lailahfsf@gmail.com>]

Or may be to create a separate document explaining those details about
databases back-ends?

Is just an idea...



El mar, 20-03-2012 a las 11:17 +0000, Tom Davies escribió:

> Hi :)
> I think Dan's plan is a good one and it's very ambitious.  it's good to have input from new people but would it be possible to complete the 1st Base Guide according to Dan's plan first.  After that would be the ideal time to discuss restructuring it and perhaps add in an "Advanced" guide.  
> 
> >From discussions on the Users List it seems there is a gap in the market for  an extremely simplistic and single purpose guide to help people create a contacts database and/or read a Thunderbird one.  I think linking to an Evolution/Outlook one would make it too complex.
> 
> I agree that the Base Guide that Dan has planned needs to avoid using the embedded back-end.  When we first discussed the plan for the Base Guide most of us didn't realise quite how appalling the embedded one is.  Using HSqlDb as an external back-end after downloading the proper HSqlDb from their website is a huge improvement but the embedded one seems to create too many weird problems.  
> 
> I think we have to avoid to much "mission creep" or the guide will never get done.  It might be best to to keep comparisons between the various different back-ends to a reasonable minimum.  The work Dan has done seems to have kick-started greater interest in work on Base generally.  A completed Guide might draw more new people in.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 20/3/12, Mail Dump <mail.dump@comcast.net> wrote:
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> From: Mail Dump <mail.dump@comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-documentation] Base guide structure (TOC)
> To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Tuesday, 20 March, 2012, 4:50
> 
> Mark,
> 
> This is another problem with using HSQLDB as an example that I overlooked.
> It is cumbersome. And to be honest I would use a MySQL DB on "localhost" if
> I wanted to create a database. Although PHPmyAdmin is better, Base is more
> visual and seems to work well. Of course anyone with DB experience will want
> to use their preferred DB.
> 
> And, there has been some discussion of losing much of the Java dependancies,
> especially since Sun and Oracle aren't in the picture any longer. So HSQLDB
> may someday be replaced with something like SQLite.
> 
> 
> Rick B
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Stanton [mailto:mark@vowleyfarm.co.uk] 
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:18 AM
> To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base guide structure (TOC)
> 
> Particularly because it's the cause of so much trouble, I'd suggest it would
> be good not to focus on the "native" HSQLDB setup, though I agree it would
> be good to show it.
> 
> I'd suggest using all sorts of example backends.  A "Here's how you'd do x
> with the native HSQLDB and here's how you'd do it with" 
> a.n.other engine.  A couple "side-by-side" like that, and then just vary
> engines in the examples.
> 
> Mark Stanton
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