[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-Dec-08

Present:  Kendy, Samuel, Heiko

Tickets

 * Bullet lists defaults
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92657
   + Option 1: Replace OpenSymbol as default for bullets by text default
   + Option 2: Reduce bullet size so that spacing is not affected by symbols
   + code pointers needed
   -> no easy hack, needs investigation

 * Inserting shapes in Draw shouldn't require multiple clicks (Jay)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90748
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39268
   - Double click is the Libo way to do things repeatedly (Stuart, Cor, Heiko)
     - not really accurate across all apps
   - Hard to find out for new users (Jay)
   - Workflow is different and in Writer usually more than one object is added 
     where Draw rather is to manipulate what has been added (Stuart)
   - better to teach users about our good solution (single click = single action, double click = 
sticky) (Heiko)
   - create proposals with pro/cons for the next meeting so a simple decision yay/nay is possible

   + Writer/Calc (Cor via email)
     - Single click causes multiple inserting of objects.
     Draw/Impress:
     - Single click causes single insert of objects.
     - Double click needed for multiple after another..
     For both:
     - The last draw object is selected and can be resized;
     - The cursor becomes/is normal with click on document area. Or after ESC.
     Now my consideration:
     - it's easier to click in doc, or push ESC (to end insert mode) than to
       discover double-click.
     - So, unless the default behavior in other similar tools is as we have
       in Draw currently, I'm fine with a change as Jay suggests.
   + how about an module dependent option whether or not the double click is active by default 
(Heiko)
   + if it's burning, can have it as a GSoC project next year (kendy)
   + run some research and compare with other programs (samuel)
   + ask the community; blog post/quick poll (Heiko)

Tasks 

 * Color palettes
   + Add Windows colors? (according ECMA OpenXML)
     + ugly palette, unsorted collection of colors
     -> leave it open for the community
     + close https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87541 
       + not decided
   + How to go ahead with standard.soc
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87538 - new default
     -> postpone for Jay being in the meeting



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