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Hi Pedro,

On 02/25/2016 04:34 PM, Pedro Rosmaninho wrote:
Anyway, I would just like to make a proposal for changing one aspect of the
behaviour of the Sidebar and toolbar. Right now on LO 5.1 when a certain
object like charts or pictures or symbols is selected there is a
duplication of formatting options that appear on the Sidebar and also on
the toolbars.

There isnt a duplication if you choose not to use the sidebar or not use the properties tab of the sidebar. Many users choose not to use the sidebar or are at a screen resolution that doesnt make sense to use it (e.g. 1024x768). For users who prefer/want to use the sidebar, we should make it easy for them to switch to a sidebar mode (tdf#92220).

IMO, when selecting an object the formatting properties for that object
should appear only in the Sidebar (as is the case even in Microsoft Office
2013 where they have a sidebar of sorts).

MSO keeps the basic formatting properties in the ribbon and the advanced stuff would open in a dialog and recently a few of those dialogs have been replaced with a left side panel. (e.g. select a shape and you are given the Drawing Tools Format ribbon tab and users can open a Format Shape side panel to modify all the shape's properties more easily)

  And not have the same commands showing up also in the toolbar cluttering
it (also the Sidebar invariably shows more commands than the toolbar and
allows for easier understanding of what each command is since they usually
also include text and category names.

Unfortunately the sidebar isnt complete enough to get rid of all the toolbars. e.g. table toolbar, outline toolbar, drawing object properties toolbar, ...

Also, just as in Impress the text formating toolbar disappeared since most
of its functions are present in the Sidebar I would propose to remove the
text Formatting toolbar in Writer and Calc to have coherence between the
three main modules of LO and because those functions are duplicated in the
Sidebar and toolbar.

With Impress, it has always had a side panel that was open and when the new sidebar was integrated in 4.2, it made the case for the hiding of the contextual formatting toolbars by default a good choice, especially when users want to see more of their slide. Writer and Calc arent in the same boat, but Draw was so it was changed to a sidebar mode by default.

Yousuf

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