Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons

[Kévin PEIGNOT <peignot.kevin@kpeignot.fr>]

Hi

Yes we could, but :
 - We have to do this for EVERY ICON
 - We must try for each icon, each language, to be sure it's great looking
...

Then, with using B,U and S for each language, the advantage is it's the
same letter than it is in keyboard shortcut (at least it is in french
instead of G, S and I )

But even with that, I stay for using A for every icon today, and then,
someday, when major problems are solved, introduce this (little) feature.

Kévin


2012/3/16 Ivan Silva Lago Filho <ivanslf@gmail.com>

> As I said before and got no response, we could take the "A" samples and
> dinamically modify the contents of the <tspan> tag according to the
> language, since SVG is XML-based.
>
> 2012/3/16 Sabin Densmore <sabin@onegecko.com>
>
> > Good point, sorry about that.
> >
> > At any rate, I'm not convinced that a single letter -- upper- or
> > lowercase -- is clear enough for a couple of reasons:
> > 1. Iconography -- which is what an abstract uppercase "A" really is --
> > can be more confusing than language unless that icon is really clear.
> > 2. The difference between the "A" when capitalized & bolded is not clear
> > enough in most fonts that would look good on an interface. It's a really
> > subtle change.
> >
> > That said, consistent order in the placement of the images, immediate
> > feedback, and familiarity with the system(s) will probably be enough to
> > override the above, but I think it's worth noting just for the sake of
> > discussion, anyhow.
> >
> > Whatever font is currently used for international symbols and signs,
> > though, might be the place to start.
> >
> > - sabin
> >
> > On 3/15/2012 3:56 AM, Sveinn í Felli wrote:
> > > Þann fim 15.mar 2012 03:55, skrifaði King Duck:
> > >> I think it's because the words for bold and italic change depending on
> > the
> > >> language. If you just use a character and show the effect, it tells
> the
> > >> user what it does without having to refer to a specific word.
> > >>
> > >> ~ Maggie
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Sabin Densmore <sabin@onegecko.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Just out of curiosity, is there a particular reason we're not using
> "B"
> > >>> and "I" to indicate Bold and Italic? I don't care either way, but am
> > >>> curious as to why.
> > >>>
> > >>> For what it's worth, Thunderbird (what I'm using now) uses a capital
> > >>> letter "A". It's just hard to tell the difference between an italic
> "A"
> > >>> and a non-italic "A".
> > >>>
> > >>> - sd
> > > I've responded to a similar question before:
> > > <
> http://www.mail-archive.com/design@global.libreoffice.org/msg03712.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Saw also that someone asked why not use lowercase letters. It's the
> > > same principle; uppercase *A*, /A/ and _A_ should be recognisable as
> > > *pictograms* representing the first letter of the Latin alphabet.
> > > There is a reason why signs read "EXIT" and not "Exit" at
> > > international airports - and also why those are progressively being
> > > replaced by symbolised person/arrow/door.
> > >
> > > Just thoughts.
> > >
> > > Sveinn
> > >
> >
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