Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

[Warren Camilleri <warren@ossmalta.com>]

Hi Guys,

if i may barge in and put my 2 cents, working in an environment surrounded by simple users the floppy icon is well known as the save button, but for me its iconic to say from where it all began to today evolution of memory, and to play even more safe the gnome one is even more fantastic but i would ad folder in the draw as if you are saving more records...

which brought me back to my schooldays and breaking into my headmasters office to have an idea of the upcoming exams questions and answers from his file cabinet...
(i sure that brings back memories for most.)

also the floppy is somewhat and international standard, its already hard to push for simple users to switch with their fears of understanding "change" but it is better to make even more "familiar" for them.

so my vote is no to the change of the icon.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles-H. Schulz" <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>
To: design@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, 22 January, 2012 11:19:25 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy	Disk"

Hi,

Just FYI, we now have people on the discuss list asking how the decision
was made, so can you confirm there was a new icon that was used in the
Tango category?

Thank you,

Charles.

2011/12/31 alexander.wilms <alexander.wilms@zoho.com>

> Hi all,
>
> since we want to avoid to use outdated hardware as a symbol we should
> exclude the icons displaying hard drives as well.
>
> Alex
>
> ---- On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:40:19 +0100 Stefan Knorr (Astron) &
> lt;heinzlesspam@googlemail.com&gt; wrote ----
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> On 31 December 2011 11:39, alexander.wilms &lt;alexander.wilms@zoho.com&gt;
> wrote:
> &gt; The designers of the Linux distribution elementary OS  had the same
> discussion some time ago and they came up with a document icon with an
> arrow that points to the bottom:
> &gt;
> &gt; http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2755/7zq47tgh_png.htm
>
> We also have the following variations:
> Gnome 3 (almost Tango):
>
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-icon-theme/plain/gnome/256x256/actions/document-save.png
> (large size for toolbar:
>
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-icon-theme/plain/gnome/24x24/actions/document-save.png
> )
>
> Upstream Tango:
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20081112055133im_/http://tango.freedesktop.org/images/2/20/Tango-feet.png
> (For the smaller icons, see the ~middle of the second row, for the
> larger icons see the icons near the end of the second row.)
>
> Ubuntu/Human (-ity) (not Tango, but designed to be about compatible):
>
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_D1EpnOVJuA8/TPUebzxfoqI/AAAAAAAADTw/K7fm7gzEGEQ/s1600/abiword01.png
> (third icon).
>
>
> * Of the three variation, the Gnome icon is actually my favourite,
> because it has a bit of depth and (I think) communicates the idea of
> storing best. Sadly, we can't directly import it, because it's
> LGPL3/CC-BY-SA only.
>
> * We could import the upstream Tango icon (it's public domain), but it
> doesn't have much depth and the fact that the white-ish thing in there
> is actually a hard drive doesn't come across very well.
>
> * Ubuntu's icon does have a better rendering of the hard disk, but is
> LGPL only, and not a Tango icon. (Gnome 2's Tango theme had a very
> similar icon – green, not orange arrow, slightly different drive – but
> that probably had the same license as their current icon.)
>
> * Lastly, the Elementary icon is, I believe, pretty bad at
> communicating anything. Even its elegance can't really make up for
> this. I haven't researched the license, but it's probably LGPL as
> well..?
>
> These are opinions only, so feel free to disagree. If anyone wants to
> work on this, you're welcome to do so.
>
> Astron.
>
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